I usually research here a lot instead of posting but I have a big decision. I just picked up a 88' crx for $400 and am fixing to sell my 95' integra to fund a swap for the crx. My question is which engine. I had a EF witha B16 i/h/e but after a while it just wasn't fast enough. I'm torn between:

-ITR swap
-H22 swap (yes I know about the difficulties)
-crvtec/LSvtec
-b18 turbo

The $5000 is just for the swap itself which i'll be installing at the shop I work at. I'm not including any bolt ons like i/e/clutch, etc. My goal is to be able to run high 12's low 13's in the crx and be somewhat streetable (no smog test in San Antonio). Obviously i'd have to spray on the 1st three choices. What do you'll think would be the best choice or what other route should I go to reach those goals. Thanks in advance

 

if you want to turn forget out h22. its just a lame *** motor

I vote CR-Vtec. built to the hilt

 

I vote B18C, as soon as you get a B16 you're gonna want more torque.

 

builted b18c,
Or D16z6, full built, garett powered

 

so thats what b20vtec is for

 

b20/vtec

 

crvtec y0!!!
i think that will be your best bet.

 

I was considering the gsr but then I did some research and found gsr swaps for $3000 and itr swaps for$4000. I figured $1000 more for lsd, type r head, cams, manifold. I might use all that stuff or I could sell the itr bottom end, itr cams springs, etc., and the itr tranny and with that money buy a b20 longblock, cable lsd tranny, and a good chunk towards some jun 3's. Basically just use the itr head, manifold, throttle body with jun 3's and a high compression b20 bottom end all in a semi-gutted crx. What do you'll think about that idea? And yes I know many factors determine what kind of times I would run with that setup but what kind of rough estimate do you think I would run in the 1/4. I'm hoping at least some 13.2's provided I get traction.

 

there is no point in getting a ITR head and then just building it up for CRVTEC. get a b20 then find a 1st gen. b16a (PR3) head with nothing to it. Get that built an slap it on the b20. Find a good no grinding cable tranny and get your self to the dyno.

 

spend 3000 building a B20/VTEC
that with bolts ons will make u run 13's
after that just concentrate on suspension and how to put the power to the wheels and get traction....

 

There is no reason to not go B18A turbo, its the simplest b-series swap into a CR-X around, and boosted to just .5 bar will make a CR-X get up and run. If you do your own labor and put your own turbo kit together, you will be able to put alot of the money that you are going to spend into the turbo itself. As far as companies go, thats a whole different discussion. A standard T3/T04 like schroeder has for sale right now. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=421786

The typical B18A1 swap can be picked up at a junkyard for $1500-$1700, get yout he turbo, manifold, downpipe flange, search the classifieds for a cheap intercooler, BOV and Wastegate, get some custom piping made, and a three inch downpipe if your not planning on trying to fit AC in the car.

I really suggest that you get a Z10 front crossmember for the turbo swap also.

And dont forget some cheap and effective GSR rims with BFG radials up front.

 

A stock b20 motor with a drag 3 turbo kit on 10 psi should hit you 13 flat with street tires and full interior plus alittle cash left over.

 

I'm open to all suggestions because i'm by no means set on which route to go. Someone suggested a built d16 turbo which I kind of like because its different. Also my friend has his old d16a6 and si tranny sitting at his house leftover after his b16 swap that he'll sell me for $250. Being that $250 is a drop in the bucket i'll pretty much have the full $5000 to swap a z6 head on,build the engine, and peice together a really nice turbo kit. I'm completely ignorant on d series turbo setups so I have no idea the potential these engines have fully built running some serious boost. Anyone know? I guess i'll start searching. Thanks alot for responding

 

 

there was a guy on here who ran an 11.56 i believe (somewhere in the mid 11's) on a stock internal'ed d16z6. he made one complete run, turned up the boost more, and popped the motor because he ran lean. you might as well go pick up that a6 right now, and start building it. you can make an extremely nasty single cam for cheap

right now i'm working on piecing together a junkyard setup for my civic. i should be in the high 13's with about $600 in parts

btw half of that $600 is the price of a new apexi safc. if i can get one used, it'll be a lot cheaper


[Modified by skud_dusty, 10:20 PM 3/16/2003]

 

What kind of fuel management are you going to be using? $300 for turbo, chargepipes, downpipe, BOV, Oil lines, fittings, FMU...Im impressed

 

d series turbos are different, different for a reason, cause noone uses them, noone uses them for a reason, they suck.


stay ignorant, in this case, its good for you.

 

first off, dont listen to riceboy. he's obviously a ******* idiot, and i'll gladly spank whatever b-series he has with my little pos d series

cr-tegra, i'll be using the apexi safc (or vafc) as my only means of fuel management, other than a rising rate fmu and dsm injectors. i can get the hf manifold for like 10 bux from a local tuning place that does swaps, and i can get a dsm turbo/bov/wastegate for about $50 from a local junkyard. apexi is about 200 used, i already have most of the oil fitting installed (car used to be turbo) i'll be using the sidemount IC from an eclipse ($20 from wrecking yard) and you have have any exhaust shop do charge pipes/dp for around $100 (seen it done)

not sure what i missed, but i have a writeup somewhere that comes out to about 600 bux.

i'll be sure to keep you updated

 

B16 with a toda stroker kit to 1.8, ITB's, An-R header, and a lot of *** whooping on the track with the V8's

 

Get mine for $5500
It includes B18C5 engine, Y1 tranny, ACT clutch, CTR cams, Titanium retainers, Hasport mounts, linkage, PR3 ECu with Mugen chip, Axles, hoses.

 

Its not about spanking, any engine can be made create more power, everyone knows that, its no secret.

B-series is the easier way to short term success. History has proven that.

 

You would be hard pressed to do a Crvtec for $5000. A lot of the determining factors would be source for both motors, ecu, transmission and solving the thousand problems that no one talks about. Just so you know, everything costs a multiple of $400.

 

b20/vtec... MMMMM

-grey the caRAZY pole.

 

well for "short term success" you seem to be talking alot of **** about the d series buddy.

how about long term success. how about building a whole turbo kit with fuel management for $600? how about it being able to run 7 psi daily with an 11 psi max?

dont open your mouth when you dont know what the **** you're talking about. d's are a lot more fun

 

gsr baby!!!