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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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Default 4 door - good for track?

I was hesitating to either post this in RoadRacing forum or this one, but I believe it has it's place here too.
So the question goes, can a 4 door be competitive on the track? Everybody uses hatches and coupes, is 4 door good also? with some nice suspension and tires and all the possible bars, will it be good for AutoX and solo and lapping?
I know it weighs more but I don't care. it's longer so it should handle better, right?

and else, anybody here have pictures of racing sedans (civic ek) ?

thanks guys!
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (AcuraEL)

First off, there was a class of Japanese touring cars where a 4-door EG competed. Not sure if it was a Civic Cup car--it's briefly shown in Option2 #31 video.

I've also seen pics of a B16A-powered 4-door from Spain (can't remember if it's an EK or EG) putting the hurt on some exotic machinery.

Of course it's a good track car!!! In the big picture, it's still an excellent platform to build on--still has all the same suspension and engine options, adn it's not much heavier than a coupe.

I've heard that they are a pinch more tail-happy than 2-door Civics.

I say go for it!!! I'll look for some pics in the meantime.

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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (gamby)

thansk dude, sounds nice.
I was just wondering why everyone choose hatches for sedans.
I kinda figured out already that 4 door is a nice platform, jsut by looking at some touring cars example mazda protege.

But I'd love to see some PICS though
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:21 PM
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my sedans WAY more tail-happy than i would like, seems like it gets out whenever it can. if i tap the brakes going into a turn to fast itll step totally out, like i end up taking the corner facing the curb. thats the exact reason that my steering wheel is crooked, i spun it doing likr 45 on a twisty road into a curb.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (leprechan117)

if i tap the brakes going into a turn to fast itll step totally out
Granted, you're never supposed to do this, because physics make that happen. Why do you think tail-happy cars like ITR's get totalled so often?

Solution? (well part of a solution) Don't get a big rear sway bar. Go with a smaller bar, if any.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (gamby)

yeah, i have no anti sway bar. but yes, i understand the physics of it, thats why drifters always tap the brakes, to transfer the weight to the front. kinda scarry though getting the wheel ripped out of your hands. other than the body roll, i love my sedan!! way more practical than any other civic.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (leprechan117)

So far this is all I could find for pics:

http://www.mugen-power.com/en/history.htm (scroll down to "1993"--this pic couldn't be linked/posted)

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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (gamby)

i think most compact honda platforms can be competitive on the track. its all about the money you got to mess with it. i like the 4 doors, but i hate giving people rides...thats jjust another reason for people to ask.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (kwik2nec)

I just asked the same question a little while ago:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=432244
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (asdewq)

I just asked the same question a little while ago:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=432244
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (Peagreenhatch)

I got a 4 door, i took it to the track, slower then stock, but it was with a automatic and 17 inch rims.

u know that a 4 door dx is lighter then a 2 door ex.

for 6th gens


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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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My DX has a Carbon Fiber Hood, No Ac, No PS, fiberglass fenders. so it's not even that heavy, not like i droped alot, but it helps.

I don't know why people think 4 doors are so heavy, they are not even that bad, and it's something differnet, Ferios fucken own.


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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Default Re: 4 door - good for track? (Quad-Damge)

i own a 92 4 dr lx. It weighed in at 2425 which is not bad considering it has a B18c.
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Old Mar 14, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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hell yes!!! ferios are the best. i think they look really bad *** too, well eg's that is. i dont think ill ever sell my sedan, just total it.
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