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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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what would i need to do to change my 96 si to vtec what parts would i need and how much would it cost me???? thanx for ne info
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:03 PM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (orock99)

prepare to be told to do a search. you also miught want to say also if u just want the vtec head or the engine swap.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (spiveslude)

by just getting the vtec head will i get the same hp then the vtec motor?? i have been searching but i cant find much on it....thanx
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:13 PM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (orock99)

perhaps you need to understand the engine differences. your si motor (h23) is a 2.3L non vtec motor. The vtec motor (H22) is a 2.2L obviously vtec. You can make a hybrid H23 vtec but it does pose some reliability issuses as some would debate. the h23 stock has 160 hp and 155 lbs torque. the H22 has 190 hp and around same torque. the hybrid has claimed around 200 but then again is the reliability. If your looking to go faster then id say just be happy with your h23 and start moding it or buy the h22 and do the swap. vtec is great but its just 1 thing that is done to some cars.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (spiveslude)

well the thing is that i just broke my timing belt and bent my vaules i was wondering if i should just change the head and vaules with vtec ones and how much hp i would get if any
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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lol im no tech but I would do a little bit more homework on what your getting into. Plopping a vetec head(h22) will cost about 400 bucks plus you have to buy the ecu so the vtec will work. your red line would change and u could face other problems in the future, buy hey you will have vtec if thats what u want. you will get about 200 hp out of your new head and old block. but seriously have a plan before you buy stuff.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (spiveslude)

do you know what vtec is?
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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VTEC is an acronym for Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control. It is a mechanism for optimizing air/fuel mixture flow through the engine.

An internal combustion engine converts the chemical energy stored in fuel into thermal energy. The increased thermal energy within a cylinder causes the pressure to build. This pressure acts on the pistons and the result is a mechanical force rotating the crankshaft. This mechanical force is measured as crank torque. The ability for the engine to sustain a certain level of crank torque at a certain RPM is measured as Power. Power is the rate at which the engine can do work. This conversion process is not 100% efficient. In fact, only about 30% of the energy stored in the fuel is actually converted into mechanical energy.

Physics says that for a given efficiency level, a higher rate of fuel consumption is needed for the engine to generate power. So it becomes obvious that if you want more power, you need to increase the rate of fuel combustion. One way to achive this goal is to have a bigger engine. A bigger engine with larger cylinders will be able to combust more fuel per rotation than a smaller engine. Another method is to pre-presurize the fuel/air mixture and cram it into an existing engine size. Thus even though the cylinder size stays the same, more fuel is combusted per rotation. This second method is referred to as forced induction.

Honda chose to explore another method: keep the engine size the same, but turn the engine faster to consume more fuel. Here is an analogy: You want to move foam peanuts from one bucket to another with a cup. You can increase the size of your cup, compress/cram as much peanuts as possible into the cup each time, or you can just move the cup faster. All three methods moves more peanuts. Honda uses the last method. And again, more fuel combusted equals more power generated by the engine.

As the engine speed is increased, more air/fuel mixture needs to be "inhaled" and "exhaled" by the engine. Thus to sustain high engine speeds, the intake and exhaust valves needs to open nice and wide. Otherwise you have what is akin to athsma: can't get enough air/fuel due to restrictions.

If high speed operation is all we have to worry about, Honda wouldn't need to implement VTEC. Indeed, race engines that operate mostly at high rpms do not utilize any mechanism like VTEC. But street cars used for daily driving spend most of their time with the engine at low RPMs. Valves that open wide for high RPM operation contributes to rough operation and poor fuel economy at low RPMs. These undesirable traits are directly against Honda's design goals.

The solution that Honda came up with is the VTEC mechanism: open the valves nice and wide at high RPMs, but open them not as much at low RPMs. So now you have a engine with smooth operation at low RPMs, and high power output at high RPMs.

And that is basically what VTEC is. It's nothing magical. The idea has been around for a long time. Honda's VTEC is just a very simple, elegant and efficient implementation that is extremely effective at achiving its design goal. Honda automobiles are the first among modern automobiles to utilize this mechanism in such a large scale of distribution.
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 06:45 PM
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right?....lol
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Old Mar 8, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (orock99)

Hehehe, cool! 8-)
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Old Mar 9, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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Default Re: changing 96 prelude to vtec? (Dan_P)

lol why you asking me
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