You all have probably read my story about the kid with the oldsmobile alero that tells everyone that he has beaten me. I have called him out to race my friend in the eclipse GSX, but he won't show. Anyway, I was riding by his house today and saw him standing outside. A few minutes later he catches me down the road in an 89 5.0 Mustang and wants to race. I pull over to talk, and he and his buddy want to give me a go. The pathetic thing is that it isn't even his car, he said it's like his cousins or something and to top it off this kid is the chief of police's son. I declined to race him at the time, but I would give anything to wipe the smile off of his face. How quick is an 89 5.0? It sounded pretty stock except for some flow masters. How would my car ( 2001 Type-R ) or a 91 GSX do against him from a roll and off the line. I was also thinking that since he is not in his car that I go and borrow my uncles 2001 C5 just to make things fair. Thanks in advance.

 

Stock? Not that fast. my buddies ran 15.0-15.1 at the track

 

If you have any mods at all you have nothing to worry about.Hell,even if you are stock there is nothing to be concerned with.Those things are pathetic.

 

I thought they were better than 15.0...

 

Honestly,stock a 15.0 would be pushing it.I ran a stock one at the track.It was on slicks It went 14.5.I ran a 14.09 against it.Kinda funny ,after I beat him I was looking at the car and it had a lisence plate cover that said"have you been beaten by a mustang lately".

 

mirror tint....lol

 

I think a 89 5.0 LX does 0-60 in around 6.4 seconds, and a 5.0 GT does it in around 7.2 seconds. I don't think it would be that close, you should be able to take him.

 

Just remember that 5.0 guys like to modify their cars too. There are a lot of 5.0s out there. Some get treated very well (9-second daily drivers), others aren't so lucky (the domestic equivalent of rice).

I used to have an '88 coupe (notchback). Ran 12.2s in that thing all day. Cost me $4500, including the car!

Loc

 

if my gsr can beat one (when she was stock) then your R shouldnt have a problem. just dont spin to much when you launch as a matter a fact slip the clutch well b\c playing catch up is always harder than being a head the whole time

 

Unless they are the typical mustang guys with Gears etc you should beat him easily. The ones that weren't taken care of properly barely runs 16's with the age of the car and all. If anything challenge him to a freeway race also. I used to have one and without some nice modifications it has no pull on the highway.

 

I have to clear the air here because ignorice, I mean ignorance is running rampant on this post. Lest we not forget that the 5.0 Mustang from '87-'93 was an absolute terror on the streets and still is to this day. I had a '92 GT with 3:73 gears, flowmasters, fpr, pullies, t/b, and a set of drag radials and I went 13.3 @ 105 mph consistently! After adding heads, an E303 cam, and some long tube headers my ET's dropped to 12.20 @ 110 mph! Try that with a Type R!!!

Granted, there are high mileage pig mustangs out there that can barely move out of their own way. But a mildly tuned street pony will destroy 90% of the FWD cars on the street. Including Type R's with bolt on's. Over the span of 4 years my Mustang was undefeated, needless to say I never lost to ANY honda! The only time I lost on the street was to an 11 second Galant VR4. Otherwise, all other imports stayed AWAY from my dark pony!


[Modified by H-PIMP, 2:17 PM 6/7/2001]

 

I pains me to say it, but I have to almost agree with H-PIMP here. 5 liters aren't as slow as everyone is letting on. Sure a ratty 89 that hasn't been maintained with 100K+ miles isn't much of a threat, but keep in mind most 5L's aren't stock (at least where I live) and you run the risk of getting stomped pretty bad. My brother and dad both own 5L's and my brother as well as all his friends routinely drag race them. A quick stock 5L of that era will run low 14's. I've witnessed it!

Sure those cars fall apart considerably faster than our do and anyone of them with a motor that has over 100K on it may not be pumping out all the hp it once did, but don't dismiss these cars so easily, else you'll get a nice slice of humble pie one day when you least expect it.

 

Speaking of 5.slow's, I pulled on a ratty stock-looking one from a 5 mph roll to about 70 with my bone stock 91 Sentra SE-R with 105k miles on it... It shocked the heck out of me and the other dudes were NOT happy to be humbled by a Sentra...

Now my boss' mostly stock 5.0 would give any car on this board a run for its money... Granted, it's mounted in a 2000 lb convertible...

Andy

 

Beat up, high mileage 5.0's give the true steed a bad name. Sorry guys, but as much as I love Type R's and Honda's in general. Lets not get carried away now.

5.0's with mild mods (I/H/E, pullies, gears) in average condition and mileage will run mid to low 13's with ease. Add a shot of NOS to that mix and you need a turbo GSR to even keep up. A lot of ITR owners on this board are going to get clubbed over the head by a fox body stang very soon.

 

http://www.car-stats.com/ Read it and weep. 1988 5.0 GT mustang 0-60 in 7.2 seonds. 1991 5.0 GT mustang 0-60 in 7.3 seconds. 2000 Integra type-r 0-60 in 6.2 seconds. A full second difference. The mustang will get smoked.


[Modified by jond, 12:12 PM 6/7/2001]

 

i beat two og stangs at the street races,lets say this start from a rolling start (5-15 mph) cause those things have something we dont TORQUE! the newer mustangs forget it, theyre pretty powerful unless you have alot done.

this pesky kid reminds me of a guys i beat 2 yrs ago. he has a greddy turbo on his crx si and thought he was the ****, i beat him twice my like 4-5 car lengths and he was saying i didnt beat him by much! lol,anyhow he always wanted a rematch and i just ignored hm but then he pissed me off one day and i told him lets go,i beat him again by like a mile,it seemed like he gave up after 3rd gear,when i pulled over to shake his hand he just kept rolling and didnt even look at me.sorry for the long story,its justthat you shouldnt underestimate your ride,plus who cares if he talks smack. theres always someone w/ a faster car out there.it never ends.

 

Yeah, OK riceboy. Forget what you've read. You're still a newbie. I own a Type r and a Turbo del sol. So yes I'm familiar with the concept of muscle cars being beat, by FWD Honda's. All I'm saying is that a hear stock ITR will get smoked by a mildly tuned pony. FACT. Unless the ITR has nitrous, it will get spanked by a (I/H/E, gears, pullies) 5.0 stang. Plain and simple.

 

Don't argue w/ H-PIMP. I've come to realize he knows his ****. He's owned so many more cars than me, domestic and imports, so I respect his postings.

 

Car stats are a bunch of garbage IMO. There's no way an 88 GT would run a 7.2 0-60. If you search the archives of C&D, MT, R&T, etc. you'll recognize the 5L's never tested that slow. In fact the "Dearborn vs. Goliath" publish in C&D way back in 89 (?) had the 5L (notchback) going 0-60 in 6.2 seconds and a 1/4 mile 14.7. The LX Hatchback version tested 6.3 and 14.8 respectively a month or so prior. Nowhere near as slow as 7.2. That's almost as slow as a Probe GT

 

car-stats eats weiner big time. There's no way in hell that a 5.0, 5 speed of any incarnation (GT, LX, or convert) ran that slow. Notchback 5.0's ran low 14's and 0-60 in 6 seconds flat. And if you got a low option, stripper LX 13's were possible with slicks, a timing advance, and some race gas.
I HATE NEWBIES THAT THINK THEY KNOW EVERYTHING!

 

I wouldn't consider myself a newbie, and take offence to you calling me that. I've owned a 66 mustang fastback 289 4-speed for 8 years now. Its lowered an inch with diskbrakes, 600lb springs, beefedup swaybar(front), swaybar rear, bored .60 over, holley 600 4 barrel, edelbrock intake manifold, and cam, ported heads with chevy 327 valves, crane roller rockers, 289 K code exhaust. I know mustangs. I like mustangs. However, correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't a late eighties, early nineties mustang weigh around 3,000 pounds, and only put out around 220 hp? With no limitedslip, and thats not extremely fast.

 

It's getting good now.

 

LOL - I used to have an '89 5.0 LX (hatch), and today I'm driving a '98 Type R and a '2K Mustang GT so I had to speak up! 5.0 stangs have to be the most frequently modifed cars on the planet. You *can* beat a stock 5.0 (even 93 Cobras on the freeway - try it) but good luck finding (i.e. racing) one that's stock. Also, the notchbacks are quicker because they're lighter and stiffer than a GT, and no, 5.0's don't have limited-slip diffs, but they do have locking diffs which gets the job done for drag racing. By the way, don't try to race a '99 or newer GT, mine was much faster than the R even without the Vortech. As a newbie to this board (first post), I'm expecting to get trashed, so have at it!

 

stock vs. stock. R will win.

 

Stock for stock what? '89 5.0 GT, 5 speed vs. stock ITR. 1/4 mile the R will lose, but may have a chance on top end. Thats it!