i just burned some cd's, bought some 80 min. sony's are there any <U>better quality</U> ones on the market?
and can't i get <U>longer ones</U> , like 400 minutes or at least 200?
i cant believe the longest rec. cd is 80 minutes...

and tell me, how much does the <U>sound quality suffer</U> when burning songs online vs buying a in-the-store-CD?


thanks

 

80 minutes is the longest I know of - and that's usually pushing it. If you're willing, you could do an overburn, but I don't know how many CD players could read it.

As for sound quality of home burned vs. retail, I don't notice *too* much of a difference. Just use a quality MP3 and burning software and you shouldn't be disappointed.

 

more bits on the songs the better the quality...and try to use a CDR thats atleast GOLD so it will never flake! dotn download any songs that has a low bit rate .. the lowest i suggest is 128 bit thats also kinna crappy i say a good 300+ bit is perfect

 

I agree! 128 sounds like ***. Even 164 is ehhh. 192 is were it starts to sound more like a CD and will pass, but 256 is what I consider acceptable. It's funny how many people come into my shop looking for subs, high quality speakers (infinity, alpine type r) and pop in an MP3 cd. MP3's chop up the bass and high treble (which gives the music depth). What you end up with is a system that's highly capable of sounding awsome, but with a source that sounds like ***

 

A LAME 256k rip is considered cd quality and a LAME VBR rip is considered near cd quality, but you'd be hard pressed to tell.

Also, http://www.exactaudiocopy.de has a ripper that will detect and correct errors.

 

You read my mind

 

THANKS
dont really understand all the technical stuff, i have about 4 different friend who can burn them for me, the cdR's are so cheap i can burn any amount i want so ill just get from each and compare ther sound, i do notice on the 4 i have so far that some songs on it just sound terrible
i bought some PENGO CDR's as a suggestion fron one of the guys who burns them, are they good quality?
i got one for about 50c and i think im gonna buy about 20 then next time i get some money so i need suggestions on which to buy, or should i just buy all the different types i can?

 

you will never find a cd with 200 or 400 minute capacitys, unless you burn your songs at lik 24kbps, which will sound like ***. an mp3 is roughly a 1:10 compression ratio. this means for your average 3 minute song, it takes 3 megs as a mp3, as compaired to 30megs for a Wav file. now think about this. want a 400 minute cd. thats 400 megs as an mp3, and 4 GIGS as a wav file. when you burn mp3s to a CD, it stores it as a wav file, so your 3 meg mp3, turns into a 30 meg track on the cd. also a CD is a CD is a CD. quality doesn't matter to much from brand to brand. I've used Sony, GQ (good quality), and some generic brands, and they are all the same. it's just a 1 or a 0 written to the cd, since it's optical media. All cd's are pretty much created equally.

Hope this helps. Don't let anyone tell you you have to pay for the best quality cd's, because I've used cds that are 10$ for a hundred, and they work and sound fine.

Evan

 

I will put it this way. CDR are digital devices. Because of this they are perfect or flawed. Flawed cd's will come with an error(burnproof can mess up this process slightly). It does not matter what media you use. Get the cheapest, but avoid the one that looks like aluminum foil on top. The foil peels off very easily and ruins the cdr.

If you have a cdr, you have to practice. Burning audio cd's is an art. It is much easier now than a few years ago, but still requires practice to get it right. If they sound bad it could be user error or software. If you want perfection some reading will be necesary to know how the process really works.

A couple of tips. If you are making compilations of your current cd's, rip them to wave and burn them. MP3 compression will cause a loss. If you are getting mp3's through other means, 192kbps is your target. Listen to the mp3's with headphones on your computer. All mp3's are not created equal.

 

btw, as data, that 80 minute cd translates into 700 megs of space. now think

you want 400 min? multiply that by 5 80x5=400, 700*5= 3.5 Gigs. you want 400 minutes of recording time....go buy a DVD burner and start burning audio DVDs even then thats pushing it. I dont know if you can geet 4 hours of good quality audio on a DVD, as I havent gotten a dvd burner yet. there was a format put out a year ago, called super cd or something like that that was basically a double density CD, and was capable of storage of 1.2Gigs, but it never caught on, since you needed special burners and readers. cds will max out at 700 megs/80min, you want anything more, you'll need to start burning dvds, which isn't cheap. each disc costs like 5-10$


Evan

 

Like its been said, a cd is a cd. The differnce in quality is how long it lasts and how durable it is. Cheap cdr's CAN go bad in a couple years... but while it works it will not sound any different!

You want more then 80 minutes per disc? Get a cd/mp3 headunit and burn the mp3's as a data cd. Or get a head unit with Aux in and hook up a 20gb nomad jukebox or something.

One question... can cd/dvd/lcd screen headunits read burnt audio DVDs?

 

i think theycan, it stores it in a directory on the DVD labeled Audio_TS i think, since video dvds put the video in a directory called video_TS but im not sure, since my last comment stated i haven't had the chance to play with one yet.

 

Doh!

I need to learn to read before responding.


[Modified by vteg, 1:55 AM 3/2/2003]

 

man you guys all suck.


just buy an mp3 player and be done with the whole thing, eh?

 

because mp3's and bass arent the best of friends

 

really? because my kdc-mp919 seems to sound just fine playing mp3's.....who knew i was hearing something that wasn't there?!?!?!?

 

hmm, well, thats what i heard

 

i don't dispute that, merely stating that fabulous bass is what i heard, and hear every day.

 

show off!
tell me what you have man!

 

focal 165k's in front
image dynamics 12" (one)
hifonics zeus 6400
kenwood mp919


simple, light-ish (working on trick removable box/rack), sounds terriff.

 

i hate you
lol, nice set man, im thinkin of saving for a hifonics zues, do you like it? what about their subs, ever try them?

 

i'm not a huge audiophile; these components all came very highly recommended on termpro and sounddomain forums so i went with them. very glad i did. the amp is great but i've not really tried a whole lot of different brands. if it ain't fixed, don't broke it.

 

MP3 comprimises highs and lows by design. Under the right circumstance you can get both though if the bit rate is high enough.

Pressed cd bass ownz mp3's though

 

bah....like i said, i'm no audiophile, my mp3's are all above 300 bitrate, and **** it man it sounds great to me. not a huge system if you didn't notice

 

This may have allready been said, but i'm lazy and didn't read each and every post...

When you buy CDrs, you don't need to buy the special *cough*overpriced*cough* "music" CDrs. You can buy the cheapies, but make sure that you get the ones with a flat, colored label on the non-data side. If you buy the really cheap ones, the ones that are hard to differentiate which side is up or down, then you'll usually run inot problems. With those cheapos there isn't anything really holding the foil onto the disc and they usually peal off, both ruining the CD and potentially ruining whatever is playing the CD at the time.

Just a heads-up.

Another thing to pay attention to is the color of the data surface. The lighter is is, closer to silver, the better the odds that it will play in most CD players. You've probably noticed that some of your burned CDs dont play in all CD players. 90% of the time its because older CD player can't "see" the really dark blue and purple CDrs.

That's my .02