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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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OK here are the specifics:

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Car -- 1993 Civic DX HB with Auto Trans

Budget -- $5000 for engine - I have the Auto->Man swap in progress

Goal -- To run high 12s in 1/4 mile - want a street car with reliabilty

Dilemna -- Dont know what what engine to run or whether to use turbo or supercharger or NOS - am willing to use any combination within my budget

Long Term -- Basically I want to build this project to compete with my father on the track, have fun with it for a year, and then buy myself a CTR RHD.

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If anyone can make suggestions based on experience please comment. For those who want to suggest something and have never done it or helped somebody do it please dont respond. Im looking for facts and hard numbers and suggestions from knowledgable people.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge, I look forward to seeing what you guys suggest.

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:23 AM
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I would go b18c1 and get nitrous.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:24 AM
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mild build b16 and entry level turbo...should run right at ur budget too..
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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LS-Turbo
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:32 AM
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LS/VTEC Turbo or just LS Turbo?
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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b18c w/ ctr pistons and cams port and polish with 5 angle on the intake side and 3 angle on the exhaust side of the valves.. good race gas.. and I.H.E. with some cam gears and FPR set at around 48 at idle stock ecu that should get you to 12's.. did for my homeboy... good tire would help too the rest is on your driving..
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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LS-Turbo
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 12:00 PM
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LS-Turbo


simple and clean

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:24 PM
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Any other suggestions?

What year LS - B18x (which one)?

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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B18 + sc + nitrous

or

b16 + turbo + nitrous
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 02:41 PM
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Any other suggestions?

What year LS - B18x (which one)?

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B18b1, OBD I LS.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:07 PM
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you're not going to build a 12 sec reliable car for $5k, that will get you an:

LS engine with a basic turbo kit.
GSR engine with nitrous
I wouldnt even think of the b16, it lacks the torque you need.

save a little more and b/c 5k wont get you 12's and still be reliable. unless you spray like 100 shot then you cut down on reliability


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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:08 PM
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gsr + used jrsc.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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in my opinion gsr is the best, buy it swap it in stock. drive it 4awhile then it will come natural what u want to do with it.
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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Go LS wit gsr tranny and a Drag Turbo Kit
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 05:34 PM
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Go LS wit gsr tranny and a Drag Turbo Kit
for the budget that'll work
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:18 PM
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What years did the B18B come in?

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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you're not going to build a 12 sec reliable car for $5k, that will get you an:

LS engine with a basic turbo kit.
GSR engine with nitrous
I wouldnt even think of the b16, it lacks the torque you need.

save a little more and b/c 5k wont get you 12's and still be reliable. unless you spray like 100 shot then you cut down on reliability


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b16 is fine with a turbo...
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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What years did the B18B come in?

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94+ integra LS, RS, GS
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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What about H22? Is it worth the trouble to install?

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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no...bseries can be ust as good for the same u put into an H22, but theyre kinda sexy, lol
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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So an LS is better than a B16 even thought the B16 has a higher HP output?

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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no i would do a B16 swap over LS...
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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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Im kinda thinking GSR with a used JRSC. What about engine management? Will it need much standalone stuff?

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Old Feb 22, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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1. b18c5 swap - 4000
2. skunk2 stage 2 cams and valvetrain - 1000

with it properly tuned, you should be able to get into the 12's easily
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