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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 10:49 PM
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Default Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16???

This sounds ubsurd, and i think it's BS. A friend of mine whom i want to run in my celica claims his b16 in his Si is pumping out 240HP. Here are his claimed mods:

skunk2 stage 2 cams
knife edged crank
port and polish
3-way valve job
titanium valve springs
compression 12:1 (extended rods?)
Greddy Evo Catback
CAI
DC 4-1 header
VAFC
Dyno Tuned

Now.... i think i know about cars but 240HP out of a b16 wit hthat setup... i think this is BS. SOmeone is lying here.

Ok.. Edit: he now claims the 240HP was produced with the addition of a 60 shot. This sounds possible. What should the car be putting down off the bottle ?

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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (analogvoid)

hes not running extended rods with out a custom piston or a deckplate. i doubt he has that.

he probably has 170@ the wheels. own that **** talker
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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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under 200, maybe 170-180 thats a rough guess though

haha I recognize you from newcelica, you're that guy that was in that thread of trdhoney.... nice to know osme of the celica guys branching out beyond their celica boards


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Old Feb 19, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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HAHAH yah that thread was great.. yah so he's not putting more than 200HP to the wheels w/o the nitrous? im not familair with that setup so im not sure.. I'd liek to own him so he doesnt talk ****.. lol
i've run at the track and run pretty consistent so i consider myself a pretty good driver.

Edit: he sid it put like 198 w/o the bottle to the wheels....


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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 02:30 AM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (analogvoid)

i see people made 230 on a b16a, i don't know about 240.... but anyways 240? why not?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 05:39 AM
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oj what kind of setup though ?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 05:53 AM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (analogvoid)

not to be a dick or anything, but wondering if honda makes a Celica??
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 06:52 AM
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At the crank??? 240 x .15 = 36.... 240 - 36 = 204 Very realistic
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 07:48 AM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (MSchu)

What... got a problem with someone w/o a honda being on this board?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 07:51 AM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (analogvoid)

no not really, just wondering if you benefit from being on here any with a toyota...just curious...no its 100% cool if you like 's..... to ya
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:08 AM
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a b16 making power..thats umpossible
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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We have a B16 with 10.6:1 compression with 232 whp 166 tq on a 81mm bore, stock rods and crank, fully built head with Skunk2 stage 1 cams with a 60 shot . I think 240 is possible....
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (analogvoid)

That setup could put down 200 WHP if done properly... with that header and exhaust, no way. 180-190.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 09:21 AM
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I enjoy coming to this board because it's usually pretty non rice. I like car's in general but i lean towards toyota. I ca nspreciate Honda's though. Yah he claims 240 to the wheels on the at setup and a 60 shot. I think thats possible. I was just wondering what type of power to the wheels he should be getting w/o the 60 shot. He did claim liek 198.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 10:18 AM
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Yea, basically its extremely hard to get 200whp out of a b16 and near if not impossible to hit 200whp without stroke/boring. As far as the toyota comment, I roam around clubsi, honda-tech,g2ic, and newcelica.org The celica is interesting to me, and there are a few people there that are very knowledgeble about the celica and cars in general. But lately its just been the same thing over and over there and not enough aftermarket support so that site has been going kind of downhill imo, at least until mods or new innovations come out. I find that honda-tech is one of the best honda sites imo because they have alot of useful info without too much ricer's spouting off bad info.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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I seriously doubt he's getting 200whp out of a b16a w/ those mods off the gas.

Here's the highest peak dyno chart for a b16 on importreview:

http://www.importreview.com/dyno/1.6/steve.jpg


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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 11:38 AM
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That dyno sheet was on a stock block. This apparently is not a stock block, so it seems possible.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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a stroker b16a made 230whp.... so maybe with a crazier setup it'll make the 240whp, but who knows
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:22 PM
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...and if I put rocket engines on a golf cart...

The dude's lying/exaggerating.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (TimoneX)

...and if I put rocket engines on a golf cart...

The dude's lying/exaggerating.
Do you not believe a B16 can hit 240 whp on the bottle?
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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Default Re: Claims of 240HP out of allmotor b16??? (skunked)

on a bottle it can....i would say hes lying with that and 60shot...maybe with the gas lik 220-230
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:02 PM
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240hp is very possible with a allmotor b16a. If Bisi is making more power then that with a single cam then.................. And dude man is probably making 240hp with the addition of the nitrous of course. But their is no way he is making that kind of power allmotor with only those mods. The block doesn't even have any work done to it, well considering 12.1 compression pistons and longer rods, thats not going to get the job done to get in the 240hp range.
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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Uh with 60 shot....Hes probally making 230...Why dont you race him and then see if hes lying
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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I Don't put Nitrous in my body, and I certainly don't put it in my engine ^_^
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Old Feb 20, 2003 | 01:27 PM
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hehe "titanium valvesprings" wonder how that works out for em....
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