96hatch w/00si b16a i/h/e and act clutch=
R/T .... .877
60' .... 2.367
330 ....6.325
1/8 .... 9.632
mph ....75.09
1000 ....12.485
1/4 .... 14.913
mph .... 93.03

2nd run

R/T .... .720
60' .... 2.342
330 .... 6.346
1/8 .... 9.694
mph .... 74.20
1000 .... 12.567
1/4 .... 15.015
mph .... 92.23

3rd
R/T .... .544
60' .... 2.264
330 .... 6.354
1/8 ....9.704
mph .... 74.11
1000 .... 12.580
1/4 .... 15.029
mph .... 92.21

sorry so long but I thought these times were descent but can some one analyze these times for me and give sugestions on the 60' and trap speeds does this seem about right for what I have? I was hoping for at least consistant high 14s. thanks

 

Your third runs 60 foot time looked good but it seemed like you slowed down towards the end compared to the other times. If you would of had as good of 1/8 and 1000 foot as you did in the 2nd you would of been in the 14's. It just seems after that good 60 foot you got slower then the other runs. But you would of been in the 14's, like a 14.9 but thats still 14's....

 

What are you launching the car at?

 

Perhaps you are leaning out on the top of your RPM band ... a fuel pressure riser might help increase your trap and get consistent 14's. (of course with a good launch)

 

I launch at 5500 and feather the clutch out until most of the wheelspin stops. Usually the rpm stays above 5000 and thats how i've been judging my launch. If the rpm stays above 5k and hooks up descent the car feels good at the launch. Some friends told me it seems like Im not shifting fast enough during the 15sec runs. I dont know but I guess it would be a good idea to check the fuel pressure, any other suggestions? thanks

 

Check your tire pressure also. That can have a big effect on your mph. If it's too low, especially on street tires, you'll lose top end.

 

tire pressure was at 25psi. I get alot of hop on my 1st to 2nd shifts I bet thats got something to do with it also.

 

IM and let me know when you're going to bithlo again. I'll probably be out there this week and possibly funday sunday, and maybe I could give you a hand with your times.

 

You get wheel hop because your tire pressure is too high for where your leaving in the rpm band, try letting some pressure out and leaving at the same rpm and see if the wheel hop stops...

 

you shoulda just bought an Si...I hit those numbers with less mods in my coupe. and I didnt touch anything to make it lighter.

 

Good for you! Your cookie is in the mail

Anyway, Those times seem about right, you should be at high 14's with that setup. Plus sitting in line for an hour at Bithlo before you run kinda makes it hard to get in the swing of it.

 

With tuning and drag radials that hatch is an easy 14.5-14.7 maybe even a 14.4 with an open header run and a 1.9 60'.....never seen an Si run those kinda numbers but...

Take a few things out of the hatch and I think it may help your 60'. WEight transfer is a bitch on stock shocks...plus if you still have the spare, back seat, etc... it throws more weight to the rear at launch. Your times will get better and your trap shows your making decent power. Hit the dyno up with a VAFC and FPR and you should be able to smoothen your power curve and gain some mid range. Try a few different VTEC engagement points....I have mine at 4800 when I thought 55-5700 was ideal for the cams I have....so try a few things and I think your times will improve.

 

Ill tell you a LITTLE secret to get better ET's,,,,, dump the Bshitteen and get a GSR engine! i pulled 13.8's on slicks all motor with my 99 HB with a b18c. just had intake, header, exhaust, VAFC, MSD plug wires, and a SKUNK2 intake mani.

 

That was uncalled for. Use your head before you post in the future.

 

----you must be a proud owner of a B16?

 

You must have 97% becuase of your great posts?

Yes I do drive a B16 and yes a B18c1 is better but he doesn't have a B18 so use your head and try some real advice or don't speak at all. It's not a GSR vs. B16 thread so don't make it into one with your useless comments.

 

yer the big guy around here huh?

 

yup...

numbers are not too bad but yea a bit slow of a trap...ek hatches are a bit heavier than eg, or ef hatches...but your # are in the ball park

 

92 civic eg full body
204whp 140tq 9,900 rpm redline

99 b18c5 stock block!!
custom headwork
custom intake manifold
jun stage 3 cams
jun flyhweel
custom p28 ecu

on normal radial tires..
2.183 60 foot
5.763 330 foot
8.613 1/8 mile
87.41 1/8 mph
13.100
109.74

on full slicks..
with dummy doors and hatch.
1.686 60 foot
4.944 330 foot
7.679 1/8 mile
89.79 mph
12.130 et
109.80 mph

full body same as radial tire run but on slicks
12.45@109mph ..... this motor was sold to a customer..

 

thanks for the advice,(the helpful advice) and I will try some of these things at the track. What tire pressure should I try? My back seat and spare come out when I drive the car at the track. I ordered a fuel pressure reg. and gauge but im not sure if I should buy a VAFC or chip my p30 or something. If you have a Si running 14's but thats pretty rare. And if i wanted a geezer I would of used that motor. Yes a b18c motor is sick but I would only spend the money for that motor if I was building a crex or eg for a one seat race car for the strip. I think EK's are good cars for auto cross and circuit driving. I just want to learn how to drive the car to its full potential instead of buying a motor just because it has ***** and not be able to drive it the way it should be driven. Gotta crawl before you walk!

 

I dont believe this for nothing.... Are you one of those people that get I/H/E and call it stock still?? Because that doesnt sound stock

Kermit - Lower your front tires to 15 or 20 PSi... I did this (20 PSi) at thet tracks when i ran and i was grabbin like a ****! I drive an 2KSi...i was laucnhing at 4krpms with my tires down to 20PSi

 

 

in my 92 hatch i launch at 3500 and there is no wheel spin. it hits 14.3 with a 60 shot and i think you should work on your r/ts get them down to 5.0 and youll be set. good luck

 

89 civic hatch 2.0 non vtec allmotor stock rods, stock crank,stock bore b20b
with 12.5to1 compression pistons,mild ported head,crower springs and retainers,crane cams,twm t-bodies,tec2 engine ma.it made 197hp@8500, 147fttq.I run on 22x9x13m&h slicks with 18's on the back.CAR weights 2040 w/driver and the car is street driven.still need a little more fine tuning.remember its [B]non vtec [B]
60' 1.74
330' 5.18
1/8 8.04
MPH 86.9
1000'10.52
1/4 12.64
MPH 106.9

 

No I wasnt Stock,I had an Intake and an Axle Back exhaust at the time. Notice I said "less mods" not "no mods".


[Modified by ZappasOne, 4:17 AM 2/21/2003]