we know we got it locked in hot rod and all motor but what about pro rwd?okay so we have adam with his nsx last year and the year before. He did well but he could never comprare to the days when he dominated with his rx7, i guess now he has that new civic si, but look at the chassis, too damn short dont ya think. But there is hope i think with steph's new car, and those new aftermarket trannies for the counter clockwise rotating honda powerplants. I wanna know what you guys think about honda future in the ever booming import drag racing circuit, i know we got it locked down in other areas like hot rod but what about pro? Honda never really dominated in pro, it was always a mazda and then this year with the bullish solaras.
but ne ways how do u think honda will compete with the guys with more experience from the domestic side guys like Ligenfelter, YOU know there is more to come cause this is just the beggining, more people and more people are going to jump on the bandwagon, u think domestic guys are gonna wanna race a Honda or in there terms a rice burner, there prolly gonna fix up some peice of **** domestic four or six cylinder and throw a crappy focus,cavelier, or sunfire body on it. Anyone think that funny car integra with that 4000hp b18 with that norwood chassis is really gonna do some damage? do you think others will follow in there footsteps? You think Kenny Tran can go from an 8 second unibody fwd to a funny car with more than quadruple the power hes ever touched in a rwd? What it all comes down to how do u see the sport in just say 10 years in general and how honda is going to be in it? You think hondas still gonna be top dawg?

 

i think you talk to much

 

maybe when a pro car starts competing with a built honda 8cyl vtec NSX motor then they'll dominate, but 8's are not allowed in the sanctionaing bodies for sport compact cars.

steph may have to get used to a RWD drag car ... Adam has a shot in that he's been driving a RWD all this time.

Also, can;t compare the length of the car like Adam's Si ... it has a chassis tube which addresses longer wheelbase via tubes and wheelie bars ... similar cna be said for Ben Ma's AEBS Focus

greg

 

Thats not a B18, not by a long shot. Its a 4.8l 4cyl completely custom made etc that runs on methanol if Im not mistaken. Its as much of a honda or a bseries motor is as a Chevelle with a 396 is.

Does that NSX ever make it to the East Coast? Ive never seen it in person.

 

nope, ive never seen adam race and i got to all the ne events

 

Ok I think i understood what you were asking. You had enough material for around 10 posts in your one paragrah (is that what it was?)

Ok to adress the topic at hand. I think you are going to see more and more diversity in the type of vehicles that are being campained. Sport compact drag racing has the attention of many other auto manufacturers now, besides Honda.
I don't think the logo will ever die out. I do think you will see a day, not all that far in the future where Honda will not be the dominate force it once was. Honda does not get nearly as involved as some of the other manufacturers IE: General motors & Mopar. Unless Honda decides to back a few more of the pro racers in this sport it will become the minority, at least among pro cars.

Just my .02

 

Honda does not have Hot Rod and Pro Stock licked. GM puts an Ecotec out there in Hot Rod and in the same season it goes from a 10 second car to an 8 second car.

Pro Stock will be challenged by others also...just not yet. Ford can run 10s all motor and we will find out if GM can. They will be there later.

Honda doesn't need a huge factory backing when they have privateers that do all the work for them. I'm sure they will get into it someday but it might be 1 or 2 cars. Right now, there are so many people racing Hondas that they don't need to be out there advertising their products...we do it for them.

We might see 6cyl funny cars someday...maybe. The V8 import funny cars will run NHRA PowerAde.

Honda will not fall behind but I look forward to the competition and the many nameplates. Import drag racing wouldn't be half of what it is without the influence of Ford, GM, and Chrysler.

 

the Norwood car runs on nitro and methanol, it has seperate fuel tanks, and seperate sets of injectors for each, it mixes the nirto, and the meth in the combustion chamber. its a pretty radical concept, they run on meth only at first, then start mixing in the nitro, they also use nos to spool up the turbo, the thing is there is no class for it yet... they are hoping get the sanctioning bodies to make a class for it, they want to sell them for $100K or so... and it in deffinitely not a honda, the block is cnc from a solid block of aluminum, and fires 3 spark plugs per cyl. I personally cant wait to see one run...

 

wow that was a mouthful!! anyway in my opinion, if the old school domestic guys start running in the sport compact world we will all have our handsfull. I mean look at the ecotec summit cars. they are rediculously fast and have only been running a season or 2. the domestic guys dont care about the cars being rce burners etc etc etc they are going where the money is.

 

i would have to disagree with that statement. Import Drag racing has gotten this far without the backing or participation of the Domestic camps. it caught the attention of NHRA before the domestics were even in the picture and the only thing gm, ford and chrysler did was make this sport appeal to more of the masses by making it mainstream.

import racing has been around for a good 12-13 years and they only came in the picture the last 2-3 years jumping on the bandwagon, AFTER this sport has evolved to the level it is in now.

 

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well since the introduction of ford and GM and chrysler it isnt really <u>import</u> racing anymore now is it. Not that im saying that is a bad thing, maybe it should be called low displacement racing.

In Pro-V8 there doesnt seem to be much of a difference between that and conventional funny car racing, can somebody enlighten me on what sort of rules and limitations there are in this specific class that seperates it from the regular NHRA

 

And it's sitting in our shop right now and i've got to work on it this season

 

want a cookie, Hot Shot!?!?

 

Jealous??

 

Hey, I'll take some cookies. Choclate chip and walnuts please.

 

oh yea well i got to touch it

tony said we could put the motor in my civic if I wanted but told him no b/c I didnt have the moeny for the gas.

 

Well first off Im kicking myself for not signing on to this forum a long time ago....thats right Im new here...haha get used to you

Anyways about the post...Im excited and cant wait to see the Red AEM Civic rip up the 1320. You say the mazdas have always been there....haha well nothing like that low 7 second pass Ibarra put down. You talk about Lingenfelter and what performance he put on(Matt Hartford takes over that car and he'll have a little bit to get used to there), well he had a lot of sponsorship help from Summit. I think hes set the bar higher by doing just that, its going to be interesting how the next few years play out and to see where the sponsorships come in.....but hey what do I know about racing, Im only 19 and in college...haha

 

Actually, import racing has been around for about 35 years with the aircooled vw, mg's, pinto's, corvairs, etc. The fwd sport compact scene has been around for those 12-13 years. IMO, import racing wouldn't be where it is today without the influence of the aircooled vw- the original import.

 

WERD. I raced my very first car over drag race over 12 years ago and it was a air cooled 13 second bug. At shows all over the states there were Bug-Ins yeilding 10-10 and even 9 second cars. (street driven mind you) 4 banger racing is far from new. The Front drive craze is picking up speed in bounds but there is always something new on the horizon. Whatever that new craze is Ill be there. As long as its fast of course.

 

Thats nifty, what year was the bug? Could you give some stats on the motor. I daily drive a '74 super and have a '74 standard bug project car. I'll be having a turboed 1915(draw through 4bbl) built for it in a couple of months. for aircooled vws.

 

It was a 68. It had a custom built 2.2L twin carb setup with a IRS 5 speed trans and some crazy gear ratios. at 105 mph on the top end it was almost maxed out on 13 inch slicks. Hit the bottle on it a few time on the street and beat a few 11 second cars. blew it up though. Too much heat for the little guy.