Timing belt is set up right on the money. Do i need to advance my ignition timing or should i already feel an improvement?? Just wondering what you guys have done when you put cams in. Thanks Anthony

 

um. what kinda cams. do u have cam gears? or stock? cams dont just pop in and make power. u need to get them tuned. and if you got an aggressive lift. i hope you got springs and retainers. dont wanna get valve float now do we.

 

hey escocrx what all is on your crx like body wise, because it should be way faster with a b16 and itr cams than a 14.5? my friend has a 91 hatch with a b16a jdm and an exhaust and he hit a 14.1 and low 14s very consistantly

 

itr cams do...

 

no kiddin

 

f*ck u escocrx you dont have to be a smart ***... i was just asking a simple question.

 

i just wanna know whats on esco's crx, that slows him down to a 14.5


[Modified by smokinvtecCRX18, 11:23 PM 2/11/2003]

 

14.5 isn't a bad time. Look at the old posts, most people with b16 hatches are in the high 14s to mid 15's. ITR cams in any of those cars wont bring it down to a 14.1 without slicks and tuning. Don't belittle his car becasue he isnt running what your friend is. These b16s are 12 years old, some are in much better condition than others.

 

if you have a crx and a b16 and run a high 14 i would throw it off a cliff, not really i would just pull the b16 and get a gsr or somthing, im just really critical on slow b16 crx's because of the power to weight ratio is suppost to run 14.0s but it runs like low 14s instead so what ever

 

there are other factors such as track conditions, temp, altitude....my crx ran 15.2 on a damp cold day with crap happy tires....pretty sure i coulda ran a 14.7 with just i/h/e on a better day

 

f*ck u escocrx you dont have to be a smart ***... i was just asking a simple question

dude chill out... I dont see where escocrx even offended you. You come to a board for help and thats what most people will give you.. but not with an attitude like that your not.

 

I was wondering the same. What did EsoCrx say that made you mad???

Sometimes I question the maturity level of this board when I read posts like that.

Ive seen some people post a question, and get mad when nobody answers. Then you have people who get mad when someone offers their opinion and some advice.

Ok, first of all....what cams did you install?? Did you perform a valve lash adjustment afterwards? I'll take your word for it that your timing marks are dead on and not one or two teeth off. That could affect performance.

 

To get back to your question, what brand/make of cams do you have? You MUST at least get cam gears and preferably an AFC of some sort. I slapped my cams in my B20 and was alil' dissappointed...louder, not much more power though... Then I got them dyno tuned w/ AFC and gears. -3/-5 20+whp. Everywhere.
EF-1/Rocket

 

this always made me wonder why some people are "Wasting" money on a b16 ... you say it runs a high 14 / low 15 and it cost sooo much to swap it, you could just get a sohc d16z6 and be happy with a low 15 (not to mention the $1000 saved)

whatever, all these people making comments about running high 14's / low 15's just completely turned me away from a b series engine ... price to performance just isnt worth it on those engines - gsr engine gives the performance, as with type r, but IMO they are a total rip off

 

not trying to be on escocrx side but i live near carlsbad track where he ran the 14.5 ,carlsbad is a really bad track they are going to close it down i here , i know alot of people that didnt run impressive times at carlsbad but ran at pomona or lancaster ( even though its hotter and ran a good time ) now running a 14.1 with full interior with just i/h/e and itr cams isnt going to be easy , my best time with my first hatch b16a with itr 4-1 header ,intake , exhaust , 14.6 at 93 mph now no itr cams are going to take off a half a second , i know guy with acrx with 99 b18c that ran only a 14.1 with bolt ons at carlsbad

 

what kind of suspension and tires did the gsr crx have on it?

 

When I added ITR cams to my b16a, I also added the ITR intake manifold and a big bore JG throttle body. I lost 8 HP from my previous dyno tuning.

After tuning, the car made 20 more HP than when I started the day.

We had to add ALOT of fuel up top to compensate for the higher lift and duration on the ITR cams.

 

people get mad when others tell them how it IS

 

did you give it a valve job?

 

Well SteveeeO, B16's are a great starting point for modification. To get a soch VTEC running mid 14's requires a LOT of work, while a B16 should do it with an intake and an exhaust. add some cams, header, slicks, u have high 13's right there. Try that with an N/A sohc.

 

Lets see. SOHC VTEC, 300, nitrous kit 400, cam, 300, ihe, 300, thats the price of a b16, that should get you mid 14s there.

 

300$ sohc... damn where's that at???

 

when someone with a 92-95 ex/si drops their z6 for a b16, and i pick it up for $300

 

SAVE $1,000??????? i dont know where your shoping but im geting my full swap for $1,100 and thats the going rate + $150-$250 to my door

 

i said doing the swap right ... and you need mount kits and shift linkages, not to mention other things

"Lets see. SOHC VTEC, 300, nitrous kit 400, cam, 300, ihe, 300, thats the price of a b16, that should get you mid 14s there. "

your prices are a little off, but anyways... d16z6 in almost every hatch with some minor weight reduction and no ac run about 15.2-15.3, add the IHE - another $400-$600 depending on what you get, and a 50 shot of nitrous about $400 with some slicks and it's easily a high 13 car - oh, it's also a newer engine ... I agree the b16 might have more potential to get farther, but not everyone has the time or money for a pure track car

and if your getting a full swap with engine + mounts + all the other bs needed for $1100, I would love to know where