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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:07 PM
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Default Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input

I'm researching the possibility of constructing some adjustable upper control arms for civics/integras (possibly more if there is demand for it). I would like to produce something that will not slip like the Skunk2 kit, yet does not cost $450. I was thinking of using threaded ends in place of the Skunk2 system. Replies can be left here or emailed to: jenkinrp@jmu.edu . I hope to have a few sets for prototyping available in a few months.

Thanks in Advance,

RJ

A. First, i would like to have some information about you.

1. Name:
2. Type of Vehicle:
3. Use of vehicle (autocross, street, show, road race):
4. If raced, what class:
5. How much is your vehicle lowered:

B. If you could, rate from 1 to 5 the importance of these items as well as providing any subjective opinions on the matter as well (i.e. for "color" you could say "i prefer black").

1. Cost (and how much you would pay)

2. Weight of Product

3. Ease of adjustability (on car / off car)

4. Range of adjustability

5. Type of material (steel vs. alluminum)

6. Color

7. Finish (painted, powdercoat, polished)

8. Are you currently using a similar product

9. Would you be interested in a new product

10. Type of mounting to vehicle (rubber bushing, poly bushings, helm joint)

11. Included upper ball joint

12. Gaining additional camber (not lowered very much)

13. Reducing camber due to lowering

14. Serviceability

15. Ease of installation

C. If you currently use a similar product (Skunk2, Ingalls, Auto Specialty) could you answer the following questions?


1. Are you satisfied with its performance?

2. How would you improve on its performance?

3. How would you change the design of the product?

4. How much did you pay for this product?

5. Is this product adjustable?

6. If so, what is the range of adjustment?

7. Any other comments about your current product:
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (.RJ)

Make some up and then we'll decide if they're appropriate.

Ed -- who doesn't like filling out surveys!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:10 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (.RJ)

damn for a minute there i thought i clicked on the RR forum

good luck with your project
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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I'm trying to make the best use of my time and money in prototyping a product by gathering information

Make some up and then we'll decide if they're appropriate.

Ed -- who doesn't like filling out surveys!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (.RJ)

You should use the SS Work's A-arm as your starting point
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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Do a search! and fix the problems that people have had in the past!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (zygspeed)

You need these key features:

DOES NOT SLIP!!!

Adjustable without having to remove the arm.

Do those two things and you'll be very successful.
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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I have..... on car adjustment and no slippage seem to be the most common problems i have seen.

Do a search! and fix the problems that people have had in the past!
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Old Feb 9, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (.RJ)

A
1.Daniel
2. 96 Integra SE
3. AutoX, street
4. STS
5. ~2"

B
1. as long as its reasonable
2. if it can be made light and strong thats better, but strength is more important
3.
4.
5. As long is its strong
6. Don't care
7. As long as it can't rust
8. No
9.
10. Polyureathane would be nice

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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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anyone else?
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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:18 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (.RJ)

I would have to say just follow the basics, just what DAN GSR posted. The biggest concerns are weight, durability and slippage.

98 ITR
Auto-X
SM
don't know anymore, GC setup, keep adjusting


I am willing to pay the same price as skunks if they don't slip, but of course the cheaper the more you may sell.

The rest such as color adn finish are irrelevant over perfomance and quality.


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Old Feb 10, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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Default Re: Adjustable Upper Control Arms - Need your opinions and input (.RJ)

I have..... on car adjustment and no slippage seem to be the most common problems i have seen.

Do a search! and fix the problems that people have had in the past!
No arguement the Skunk arms could use some design tweaking but so far I haven't had any slippage when appropriate modifications are made and I was able to adjust them on the car wheil on the rack no problem.

Fix it so they don't have slippage issues from the get go.

Shae lets see these SS works setup!
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