springs or coilovers?
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which rides better for the 89 civic hb? i currently have some generic coilovers and tokico blue. my ride is bumpy as hell.
"coilover" FAQ: http://www.norcalcrx.org/tyson/coilover.html
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ok im sorry. im sure you knew what i was talking about. 'adjustable springs' kit or springs, which is better for the hatchback?
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If you're asking this question, you probably dont need "coilovers" and will be wasting your money and should buy a good set of Eibach Pro-kits or any other quality kit.
If you're asking this question, you probably dont need "coilovers" and will be wasting your money and should buy a good set of Eibach Pro-kits or any other quality kit.
unless you plan on spending a LOT of money for some HIGH quality coilovers don't think about them. by a lot/high i'm takling Tein/Apexi/Tanabe type of products, which will run you over 1000$.
just get springs. try Goldline, good quality/cheap!!!
just get springs. try Goldline, good quality/cheap!!!
I have a set of sprint on my 88 hatch and it droped i 2 1/2 and it rides real nice. my crx has H&R and they handle awesome but are a lil stiffer and only droped it 2". i had skunk 2's on both my hatch and crx and they were good for sleve/coilovers. I had eibach prokit on my eg and they sucked ***. They were the stiffest of all ive ran and are goin on my heavier eg. The best compromise of handlin/comfort was my H&R. Try some H&Rs. My strut set is unblown oem struts on my hatch..Blues on CRX and illumnas on eg. Rims are crx alloys on HB.. 16's on crx 17 on eg...big rims and shitty springs will make ur car bounce like crazy.
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street car, stick with springs, they usually are progressive rate, they've been said to feel softer than stock, but when cornering its a huge difference over stock. most coilovers use linear rate springs, so on a street car they'll most likely be bumpy (not exactly sure about generic coilovers though) like it was stated in Tyson's FAQ, if you're asking this question you dont need coilovers...
I have good ol' lowering springs---I'm not a fan of any of the under 500 brand coilovers. I have sprint extreme rx springs(3.25 drop), they look sick, handles like its glued to the ground, and the ride is not harsh at all! Running with Illuminas(stay away from blues) Best thing is they only cost $130.
Short answer:
If you're asking this question, you probably dont need "coilovers" and will be wasting your money and should buy a good set of Eibach Pro-kits or any other quality kit.
If you're asking this question, you probably dont need "coilovers" and will be wasting your money and should buy a good set of Eibach Pro-kits or any other quality kit.
Due to my having worked on "hobby" cars for a ton of years (I'm 50), certain "titles" tend to get to me. It seems that when anybody in the Honda circles talk about "coilovers", they are refering to the fact that the lower spring perch is bearing on a threaded collar. I'm willing to hang with that for this discussion.
There are ONLY two possible design limitations that would make it worth going to coilovers.
One is that you have almost unlimited adjustment for weight adjustment, side to side. The ability to adjust height is also possible with the Koni "yellow" shocks that use a snap ring at the spring perch (and can still use the stock springs). I seriously doubt that many individuals other than those doing legal raod racing do weight jacking.
Another advantage of coilovers is that you can go to a smaller outer diameter coil. I'm not talking about the wire diameter, but the diameter of the whole spring. In certain applications, this can make more room for the wheels.
Other than the above noted items, the quality (rebound functions) of a shock absorber are NOT a function of it it's a coilover or not! There is NO reason why spring can't have the same spring rate, be it coilover or not!
In my mind; it's all a matter of starting with a spring rate that is reasonable for what you want to do and then getting a shock absorber that works in conjunction with it.
Wes Vann
[Modified by Wes V, 7:44 AM 2/8/2003]
There are ONLY two possible design limitations that would make it worth going to coilovers.
One is that you have almost unlimited adjustment for weight adjustment, side to side. The ability to adjust height is also possible with the Koni "yellow" shocks that use a snap ring at the spring perch (and can still use the stock springs). I seriously doubt that many individuals other than those doing legal raod racing do weight jacking.
Another advantage of coilovers is that you can go to a smaller outer diameter coil. I'm not talking about the wire diameter, but the diameter of the whole spring. In certain applications, this can make more room for the wheels.
Other than the above noted items, the quality (rebound functions) of a shock absorber are NOT a function of it it's a coilover or not! There is NO reason why spring can't have the same spring rate, be it coilover or not!
In my mind; it's all a matter of starting with a spring rate that is reasonable for what you want to do and then getting a shock absorber that works in conjunction with it.
Wes Vann
[Modified by Wes V, 7:44 AM 2/8/2003]
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