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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 04:52 AM
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ok fellow h-t members.. to put it lightly uncle sam has a good pay-out for me this year. bucause i'm not doing a swap just yet i want to do some suspension..

i never auto-x or drag but i do want a nice set-up under $1000.
should i go koni yellows w/ comptech springs or tein ss ???
what do you think and why? if you never used either or had expirence with either you need not apply...
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these will be on a 99 hx coupe
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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I have Koni Yellows on my Civic w/ comptech swaybars and my car handles like a champ, but I would say go with the Koni's,they are a really good spring and I would recommend them to anyone...

and I would go with Teins as well...
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:08 AM
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If you're going to use Koni Yellows, why not look into some Ground Control coilovers? Many people praise this set-up a lot and you have the ability to change out the spring rates now or in the future. That and couple of good sway bars and you're in business.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:16 AM
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If you're going to use Koni Yellows, why not look into some Ground Control coilovers? Many people praise this set-up a lot and you have the ability to change out the spring rates now or in the future. That and couple of good sway bars and you're in business.
thanks for the advice guys..if it's not to much could you put some $$ figures on these set-up's also..

i also have'nt really heard anything good about gc's. price of being a newb i guess
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 05:55 AM
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Yeah if you search around you will definitely hear praise of GC's. They use Eibach ERS springs which many companies use as replacements for different spring rates.

Lets say you pick up basic Koni's - $500-$550
Ground Controls (even with custom rates now, at least go for Integra rates)- $325-340

You're still coming in under you $1000 budget and have a couple hundred to use on other forms of chassis stiffening.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 06:03 AM
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you guys need to remember that i'm still an just a wookie at this stuff. so when spring rates and all of that become involved i'm a little lost. i've also read about hondas sagging on the drivers side and this is something i most deff want to avoid..
which is why i'm leaning more towards coilovers.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:29 AM
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if you just want a nice suspension set up. you may want to look into some gc's and kyb agx's. It's cheap and gives you great ride quality. I'm running that set up right now and love it.

GC's are about 300, but you can probably find them cheaper if you search around. And You should be able to find KYB agx's for around 320-340. That leaves you with quite a bit left over, maybe for some sway bars or strut bars.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:38 AM
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$587 shipped will get you Ground Controls with Tokico blues. I had those on my hatch and the ride was nice. Don't forget to get a camber kit though. Very important.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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I am using Tokico Blues with Gold Line springs....rides like stock.

The set up cost me 175 for everything. Tokico's were used for 2 months and the springs were new out the box with lifetime warranty. Normally that set up would run about 500.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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I as well went with Tokico blues and some progress springs and I love it. I also made sure to add a camber kit all around and a nice 22mm lower roll bar to the rear. Good luck.

A little OT, but you should try and not have a tax return, that way good old uncle doesn't get to hold onto your money all year round. Anyways, good luck with the suspension upgrades.

Ryan
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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A little OT, but you should try and not have a tax return, that way good old uncle doesn't get to hold onto your money all year round. Anyways, good luck with the suspension upgrades.
Ryan
thanks for the info..but i tried the other way and ended up paying uncle sam

anyways i'm reciving a huge return and only want to take about a g to do my car cuz having a garage to work in is more important to me

not to offend anyone i'm not looking for the cheapest set-up.. just comparing what my original topic was.. and maybe gc's like someone else has said if i find enough praise..
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:30 AM
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if you just want a nice suspension set up. you may want to look into some gc's and kyb agx's. It's cheap and gives you great ride quality. I'm running that set up right now and love it.

GC's are about 300, but you can probably find them cheaper if you search around. And You should be able to find KYB agx's for around 320-340. That leaves you with quite a bit left over, maybe for some sway bars or strut bars.
cuz now u can get those 23mm sways and some decent struts and a camber kit [get the front, u can DIY the rear]
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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sorry to jack the thread but will tein ss's work better than the above mentioned combo's? im thinking of getting them pretty soon. ive heard alot of good things about them.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:34 AM
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$587 shipped will get you Ground Controls with Tokico blues. I had those on my hatch and the ride was nice. Don't forget to get a camber kit though. Very important.
Where did you get this deal from? Please, let me know. Thanks.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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ok fellow h-t members.. to put it lightly uncle sam has a good pay-out for me this year. bucause i'm not doing a swap just yet i want to do some suspension..

i never auto-x or drag but i do want a nice set-up under $1000.
should i go koni yellows w/ comptech springs or tein ss ???
what do you think and why? if you never used either or had expirence with either you need not apply...
thanks
j

these will be on a 99 hx coupe
my
try Teins since they have been proven under racing conditions in the JGTC. i would go with the Tein HA setup...but you would have to replace your lower control arms with the ITR ones from the dealer...they cost like $100/pair...brand new. check in the classifieds for the LCAs...you should be able to get them for less than that....
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:45 AM
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try Teins since they have been proven under racing conditions in the JGTC. i would go with the Tein HA setup...but you would have to replace your lower control arms with the ITR ones from the dealer...they cost like $100/pair...brand new. check in the classifieds for the LCAs...you should be able to get them for less than that....
whats the diffrence between the HA's and the SS's ?
thanks again guys for all your help
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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whats the diffrence between the HA's and the SS's ?
thanks again guys for all your help
i wanna know 2.
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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tein ss are great coilovers i recommend them


the ss is the replacement for the HA i think they are the same except the ss dosnt have the keeper spring and the HA does..but that only matters on the ss if you have them all the way down..i have mine at 1.5 up from the bottom in the front and 2 in the back and ill never need a keeper spring
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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what is the little box thing with the wires above the coilovers?



edit: i just realized thats a ps2 with a sticker on it


[Modified by shepworldwide, 2:57 PM 1/31/2003]
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 11:22 AM
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hahahahaha, its a PS2. brighten up your monitor some....lol
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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what is the little box thing with the wires above the coilovers?



edit: i just realized thats a ps2 with a sticker on it

thats the dope shitz

[Modified by shepworldwide, 2:57 PM 1/31/2003]
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 02:06 PM
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save and buy teins!!! u cant go wrong!
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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bump for the night
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Old Jan 31, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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I would personally go with the Neuspeed Konis which are shorter bodied than stock which is a very nice thing to have where shock travel is concerned. IIRC, there is a groupbuy going on with those right now for around $500. For the springs, I would pick Ground Control sleeves/perches, and Eibach ERS springs... the spring rate is personal preference and it would suit you to do some research and figure out a good compromise for your driving style. Read the Autocross/Road Racing Forum and the ITR forum for a lot of talk about spring rate. I'm unsure of what GC kits cost w/ the "Koni adaptor kit" and custom rates, but it will be under $400.

$900 which is roughly the same cost as the Tein SS whose sleeves I really don't like compared to GC and they're stock length.

That's what I would do if I had to do it all over again for under $1000.
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