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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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just wondering if anyone knows if there's a difference in the steering racks 88-91 hf, dx, si! I got an 88 hf and the rack is shot and i have access to getting a 91 Si rack! just wondering if there 's any difference! if its worth my trouble! any info is usefull thanks..
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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from my limited knowledge, SI rack has a tighter turning radius, but will bolt up to your HF.
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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from my limited knowledge, SI rack has a tighter turning radius, but will bolt up to your HF.
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I was thinking that too! some dude at NAPA told me that they wont bolt up! I think it should bolt up...i just need a bunch of opinions!!!
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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anybody else have anymore info on this??
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 05:54 PM
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I think he has it backwards. I have always been under the impression that the HF was fewer turns lock to lock. I will try and verify that.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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but do u know if there's any differance as far as bolting it up????
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 06:00 PM
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how didu know the rack was shot? too much play?

i might need one, but dont know for sure let me know what the problem is
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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how didu know the rack was shot? too much play?

i might need one, but dont know for sure let me know what the problem is
both inner tierods are gone and WAY to much clunking over everysingle bump...its done trust me.....and i wasnt driving this too much i'm rebuilding the car ...want to make everything work...on a mission
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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I think he has it backwards. I have always been under the impression that the HF was fewer turns lock to lock. I will try and verify that.
I second that, the HF rack is a quick-steer upgrade people have done. For you, going to the Si rack will increase your lock to lock and "slow" your steering.

A friend of mine did it (88Si w/HF rack), I don't recall him mentioning any customization needed. The last time I was under the car, I only recall 4 bolts where the rack mounts to the rear cross-member. And from the cross-members I've seen in the bone yards, those mounting locations look the same between SI-HF-Std./DX.


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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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cool thanks thats the info i need!!!
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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I think he has it backwards. I have always been under the impression that the HF was fewer turns lock to lock. I will try and verify that.

I second that, the HF rack is a quick-steer upgrade people have done. For you, going to the Si rack will increase your lock to lock and "slow" your steering.

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well i'll be damned! i too need a new rack, guess i'll look for an HF model then. BTW get them at a wrecker, unless you are a perfectionist arsehole, like me.
wreckers usually ask 50-80 for one, rebuilt one at autozone is ~300.
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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yeah mine clunks too much too. so its the steering rack? is that everything including the gearbox? how much is it gonna cost for everytthing?

will 4 gs civics work?
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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I second that, the HF rack is a quick-steer upgrade people have done. For you, going to the Si rack will increase your lock to lock and "slow" your steering.

A friend of mine did it (88Si w/HF rack), I don't recall him mentioning any customization needed. The last time I was under the car, I only recall 4 bolts where the rack mounts to the rear cross-member. And from the cross-members I've seen in the bone yards, those mounting locations look the same between SI-HF-Std./DX.


[Modified by XrcR6, 7:21 PM 1/27/2003]
How difficult of an install is that?? Can you retain the SI tilit?
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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well i'll be damned! i too need a new rack, guess i'll look for an HF model then. BTW get them at a wrecker, unless you are a perfectionist arsehole, like me.
wreckers usually ask 50-80 for one, rebuilt one at autozone is ~300.
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WOW i just ordered one today from HAP..but that was used for 85 shipped..and i think the dealer was 150 new..check there... my rack would clunck when i moved it back and fort when i was stopped and hit bumps it would clunk.. i think all the racks will bolt up though.. not for sure
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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it actually doesnt clunk when i turn it. but when i go over bumps....... fawk, no barely any control
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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it actually doesnt clunk when i turn it. but when i go over bumps....... fawk, no barely any control
I guess mine was really shot.. but ya get a new one will you are repairing stuff.. i am repairing mine because it is shot and i am dropping in a c5 bottom end
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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tight. i want to swap an engine in there as well
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:10 PM
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ya I figure u need a pretty sturdey steering rack if your gonna run a set up with a good amount of HP! I got turbo and that thing seems like if i hooked up it would rip it apart!!lol...so it seems like there all interchangeable basicly but a different length in steering radius...
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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excellent, so would 4g civics work?
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Old Jan 27, 2003 | 11:36 PM
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excellent, so would 4g civics work?
u know I would think so! my friend uses a civic crossmember , integra complete hub assembly and a bunch of other **** and it all bolts up! i dont see why a civic one wouldnt fit in a crx..good ? tho...but its all my opinion i couldnt figure out if an si rack would fit in a hf chassis lol
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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I believe a 4th gen civic hatch rack would work however keep in mind that the civic has power steering so you'd have to plug up the steering lines and then of course, the ratio would make it pretty damn hard to turn....ever drive a car without power steering working? IT SUCKS.
I've been in the market for a HF rack however I didn'ty have $ 2 weeks ago when there was one at the yard.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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The power steering rack is the only "bastard" it is larger in diameter. So unless you want to add Power Steering then any 4G should fit with out modification. If you want power steering then when you take out the rack take the rear crossmember and the rack as a single unit. Be sure to do a string alignment before you move the car and then a professional alignment as soon as possible after that.

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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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so you're suggesting that getting a CRX one is better?
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:52 PM
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I forgot the website I got it from but I have the Hf & DX ratio listed as 3.9 turns lock-to-lock and the Si as 4.1 turns lock-to-lock for all years of the CRX. Don't know about mounting differences.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 08:37 PM
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well it looks liek i dont need one. my castle nut on my tie rod end wasnt tight enough!! (stupid me- didnt tighten it al the way after i did my clutch job )

i picked up some upper arms for $40 cdn however since both my upper ball joint s had play!
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