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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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After seeing Active Aero's post on his dyno results I was anxious to see how my car would react to these Skunk2 Stage 1 cams. I am sure everyone knows they are a basic drop in cam that works fine with stock valvetrain and compression. I thought about milling the head while i had the cams out and maybe a Mugen headgasket but decided against it for the time being.

My current modifications are: AEM CAI, DC JDM Header, Carsound high flow cat, SMS B pipe adapter, JDM FD, Exedy organic clutch, comptech aluminum flywheel, Endyn catch can breather system, TB bored out a little bit (forget specs), NGK copper plugs, AEM FPR, VAFC, Titan cam gears, and removed power steering.

I had the valves adjusted the other day, the oil was brand new in the motor, and the air filter was squeaky clean

Onto the results ----> now i knew that these cams were not meant for top end power but power below the curve which is EXACTLY where i wanted it since i like to road race. The car now feels like a monster when in VTEC. Much more pull on the butt dyno alone after tuning. I am thoroughly impressed with these cams. Oh yeah the dyno i was on was a DynoJet 248C in ground. Don't know if it had been calibrated recently but i don't care about peak #'s.

The spec sheet that comes with the Skunk cams says that normally you should have the intake cam advanced 1-2 degrees and ignition timing at 16-17 degrees BTDC. Those settings SUCKED for us. They did absolutely nothing. We retarded the intake cam and gained power and bumped the ignition timing to 18 and that is where power was made. VTEC was set at 4800 rpms to smooth out the curve.

I would like to publically thank Angel and Al over at Garage Advance for tuning my car. They are super nice guys and i would reccomend them highly. I felt comfortable in talking to them about what i wanted out of the car. They are good people!



Edit: i guess my peak #'s suck compared to what everyone else had. The correction factor was certainly high because it was so cold out there. I thought everyone posted non-SAE corrected #'s.

Edit: my valves might of been adjusted on the tighter side so that might have affected peak hp. Also, will retarding the intake cam gears drop peak #'s at all as compared to advancing the intake cam?


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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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what peak numbers, thats all that matters
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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what peak numbers, thats all that matters
Haha! The peak #'s were 192/135 if i remember correctly yO! that is non SAE corrected.

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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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That's quite respectable for some drop-in cams with an otherwise stock motor.
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 11:58 AM
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Nice numbers. I really want to see that graph though.
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 12:42 PM
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Nice numbers, that what ill be expecting pretty soon, and you said you tuned for more midrange??? jeez those are awesome numbers!
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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nice #'s
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Think Yoshi is having problems on his end (we have been in contact through e-mail). Anyone else want to try and post these up if i e-mail them to you? I have them saved on a disk.

mike
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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Sure I'll help you out...Jonnybravo408@yahoo.com
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Nice numbers! Think she'll pull the Ex on the track now?
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Old Jan 25, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Nice numbers!

Seems like Atleast were having good luck with Skunk cams!

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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 06:23 AM
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Nice numbers! Think she'll pull the Ex on the track now?
It'll be a close one, but I think you can still pull her, J.

But the ITR is a real monster now, in all honesty!
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 07:37 AM
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Think Yoshi is having problems on his end (we have been in contact through e-mail). Anyone else want to try and post these up if i e-mail them to you? I have them saved on a disk.
mike
Give we-todd-did a try...
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 08:06 AM
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graphs now posted
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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Nice Mike. See you at the realtime garage in March....
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 11:54 AM
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That's quite respectable for some drop-in cams with an otherwise stock motor.
Thanks
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Old Jan 26, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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"Also, will retarding the intake cam gears drop peak #'s at all as compared to advancing the intake cam?"

More than likely, if you look at the team integra site they tell you how to tune for midrange and high rpms power, to tune for high rpms power you must advance the intake cam and then retard the exhaust cam, which is the opposite of what you and active aero did lol, but you guys are going for midrange anyways, so its the sacrifice you must take....


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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 05:32 AM
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Someone needs to tune that car.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 05:42 AM
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Default Re: Dyno Results (George Knighton)

Someone needs to tune that car.

What do you want to change? It looks like they were going for driveable midrange more than anything else, and the chart's sure a lot smoother than when they started.

Yeah, you can get more on top, but if it's a car he's driving every day, I'm not sure that's what he wants.
He's missing at least 15-20 whp.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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You sure? Peak HP numbers really dont mean anything ya know.....

He's missing at least 15-20 whp.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:21 AM
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Default Re: Dyno Results (George Knighton)

Those cams werent made to produce big peak # (the wow factor) on the dyno anyways.

I've always believed that you need to design your entire "system" to achieve your goal.... and modifying/tuning and engine definately falls into this category. i.e. Dont buy a 3" exhaust if you're going to use Toda A's... and so forth.

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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 06:25 AM
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Default Re: Dyno Results (Indecisive.RJ)

Is it just me or is a large chunk of the top end missing?

I was curious to see if the cams hold power past 81 -8200 rpm but the graph must have lost the signal.

But peak number difference is about right. I dyno's within 4 peak hp of my friends 11:1 GSR w/skunk 1's and I only revved to 8000 w/ 00 B18c5.

I have a feeling I will make more peak hp now due to cam gears, an FPR and a DC JDM 4-1....but I doubt I will post the same mid range numbers he has.
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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Peak HP numbers really dont mean anything ya know.....
good luck arguing that point.

one number is easier to compare than having to decipher a graph ya know
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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 07:34 AM
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Type R we did a few weeks ago.

Short ram intake
Thermal exhaust
FACTORY EXHAUST MANIFOLD
NO CAM GEARS
no AC
no PS
no cat
rechiped p28 ECU w/9200 RPM Limiter
V-AFC

181.6HP



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Old Jan 28, 2003 | 07:38 AM
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Hmm, I'd say you wasted a lot of money. I have JDM 4-1, Carsound cat., V-AFC, Comptech Icebox and was able to get this:

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