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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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we had "hacks". Here's a unique way of fooling the map sensor



That's freakin GREAT . How many can you count?
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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I count 24
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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now thats ******* sexy!
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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i couldn't believe my eyes. The guy knew it was ghetto, he was at my shop pricing and discussing hondata. Taylor and I were biting our tongues to keep from laughing, but I got bold and said "hey, mind if I grab a pic of your setup?"
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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also of note is the Aeromotive regulator positioned inline AFTER the FMU. He did this because he kept blowing the diaphram from sustained high fuel pressures when trying to run 12psi or so with a 12:1 FMU
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Ive given up on people.
I remember the day when there was no hondata, AEM, or even missing links. All we had were check valves and fmu's.

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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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and we had to walk uphill both ways to and from school barefoot in the snow.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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whoa...thats definitely unique
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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I guess I am the only one that doesn't know wtf that is?
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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wow, n00b!

basically, they are one way valves, or check valves. They allow the map sensor to see vaccum, but not boost. Each valve blows boost through. The old routine used to be, put turbo kit on, wait for CEL, put on more valves, blow your motor, build your motor, up the boost, wait for CEL, put on more valves, up boost more, crack sleeves, sleeve motor at bensons, get it back, up boost more, wait for cel, sleeves sink, then you tap out and tell everyone that you cant reliably boost a Honda.

Then affordable engine management came along and changed all that
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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the fishtank check valves hehe

i preferred the check valves in the little red HELP! packages lol, dont forget dfi 6 tho
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 10:59 PM
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dos shell rules
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:02 PM
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I've seen that before, but never understood it. When bulk rate electronics are so cheap, and learning how to solder is even easier what's the point of going through that much of a hassle?. I still wish I could have been able to afford MoTeC to make my life easier though.

We all have our own ways I guess. :T

edit: Sorry just noticed his Breather isn't attached to anything. Is there a reason why?


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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:04 PM
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wow, n00b!
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:05 PM
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it's quite apparent I should have gotten a picture of the entire engine bay for fullest effect. It would have been a spree of "what's wrong with this picture". Better yet, you should see the whole car. If he stops by again, I'll get pics, it'll put everything in perspective. You don't even wanna know how he broke in his built motor!
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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You don't even wanna know how he broke in his built motor!
im always up for a laugh.
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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I've been running a big nissan check valve. whats wrong with that.

To me its better than a missing link.

check valves
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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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wow, n00b!

basically, they are one way valves, or check valves. They allow the map sensor to see vaccum, but not boost. Each valve blows boost through. The old routine used to be, put turbo kit on, wait for CEL, put on more valves, blow your motor, build your motor, up the boost, wait for CEL, put on more valves, up boost more, crack sleeves, sleeve motor at bensons, get it back, up boost more, wait for cel, sleeves sink, then you tap out and tell everyone that you cant reliably boost a Honda.

Then affordable engine management came along and changed all that
HAHAHAHA!!!! Werd! I had a freind go through that exact process minus the last part. Tried missing link, and just ended up bolting the map to the fire wall . Then went V-AFC and had a whole log book of different settings for different temps, had to reset the thing evertime he drove the car. I give him credit though, he put down 331 at the wheels after the motor was built, and ran an 11.26 in his full interior 99 Si on his fifth pass out. Then the debt caught him and he sold it all.

On a side note, how much boost is that guy running????? I don't remember ever having to use that many under the hood. He must have some ghetto valves, not the good ones.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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and we had to walk uphill both ways to and from school barefoot in the snow.
That made me yell a loud "HA!" ehehe thats funny..
"when I was young you didnt have...." Ive heard that so many times lol..

eheh the old fish valves did the trick for the time though
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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what the hell... i thought you used one check valve per 5psi boost, so that means that guys running like what, 120psi boost???
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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Checkvalves!! haha, my original setup actually came with those, I just ditched them for a missing link instead, but those valves rule!!
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Would a missing Link do the job on there? He'd probably have the same $$ invested
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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WTF, i just noticed, that's an H22, but i don't see the damn VTEC solenoid.... must be one of those guys that think you have to disable VTEC if going turbo

EDIT: i just barely noticed it through the spark plug wires



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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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wow my friennd was running a gsr turbo in his hatchie and only needed like 2 of those. must be either crazy boost or crazy stupid . hopefully its the former
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