i was gonna go turbo but now im not going to b/c if i was going to do it, i'd wanna do it right...hondata, fuel management, and the best of everything. but i dont have enought money for all that, and i dont make enough money to maintain it, i dont think at least. and i want to stop spending money on my car soon anyway so i'm just gonna work w/what i got and make it a lil better. how would this work... ITR pistons, crower 404 cams, springs/retainers, P&P, new valves w/5 angle valve job, Skunk2 intake manifoldm, larger TB, and a nice header? what kind of compression would i get w/the ITR pistons? would it be even better to use CTR? about how much HP could i see w/that setup and proper tuning?

 

Considered LS/VTEC? Either way you can't expect too much from an all motor B18B.

 

Why dont you add a B20 shortblock to your list?

 

You can get some good power from an all motor LS. Dont let people tell you ya cant, cuz anything is possible. However, driveability is another thing. With big cams, its gonna idle like **** and have not so much bottom end. With a VTEC head, you get the best of both worlds. Id save up and sleeve that block(2.0) with a B16 head and some Skunk2 cams, youll be good to go.

 

Halo on this board made 180+ with a similar setup. Why dont you pm him.

 

And you dont want to spend a lot of money??????

 

if i were to go turbo i'd have to buy all the parts AND fully build it so it was perfect (being a perfectionist sux sometimes) = $$$$

if i were to get a GSR i'd have to buy the motor THEN build it AND THEN/OR turbo it

and to get a LS/VTEC to be reliable as a daily driver, it is a lot of work and money. my one friend put $9,000 into his LS/VTEC. again, i'd want to do everything right, not just slap the head on and call it a day. so that means another fully built motor. PLUS the cost of the head/machine work.

its going to be a lot cheaper just to build up the LS. cams aren't too expensive and i can get the pistons cheap, and the other stuff isn't that bad compared to what i'd spend if i went a different route.

 

98 LS
82mm JE 12:1 psitons
knife edged crank
crower rods
Fully Ported race head (I have no idea who ported this head, aquired it while working at a shop)
1mm oversize Ferria valves
Unknown cams (came with the head) had to set idle to 1500 to keep it from stalling) crazy lobes
WEB valvetrain
modified STR manifold
70mm modified Mustang TB
Crower retainers
Erick Racing PR4 ECU
RC 310's
195 Fuel pump
MSD 6AL
crap DC header
test pipe
184 whp


Second 96 LS set-up was the same except bone stock bottom end
00 Si tranny
JG PR4 head
Crower 404 cams and valvetrain
Modified DC header extrude honed open header (actually drove it this way for a month LOL)
stock injectors
Skunk Manifold
64 RC throttle body
Iceman intake
made 166 whp with Crappy stock diameter civic cx b pipe switched to open header and jumped to 174. The dyno was posted here awhile back and posted by fellow member "Hxguy"

In retrospect it was allot of money for really not all that much power. If you were to spend an equall amount on a GSR you could beat these numbers by 30-40whp. Second I would never go allmotor anything in a DC chassis way too heavy in comparison to any 92+CX hatch. Third ditch the LS tranny for a hydro b16 if you plan to do any kind of na racing. Hope this helps you out





[Modified by Halo, 12:54 AM 1/17/2003]

 

Remember this formula

Compression+Cams+Fuel+Air=Power


Maybe some other stuff too, but that's most of it


[Modified by Halo, 12:47 AM 1/17/2003]

 

ditch the ls tranny and get a gsr/b16 tranny. you will like the motor much more.

 

jrsc it, mikey had one like that(in his civic though)..torquey...i think he ran 13.8 at pretty low boost
it was relatively inexpensive as well


[Modified by MrJasey, 10:56 AM 1/17/2003]