I've got my mind set on maybe purchasing this 3 point strut bar. Same as Carbing, but without the bling silver look and costs a little less.

Features I like about the bar:

- 3 Point is stiffer than 2
- No pivot points like OEM ITR, Spoon, etc

Is it worthwhile to upgrade? I'm currently using the OEM ITR Strut Bar.

 

nice
what intake is that?
polished aem? or injen?

 

Looks like customized AJR CAI Intake.


[Modified by Understeer, 11:48 PM 1/10/2003]

 

You might want to look into the new 3-point brace from JG Edelbrock, below. It will fit w/o modification onto LHD cars (unlike the one pictured above, made for RHD cars and can possibly interefere with the master cylinder reservoir). It also attaches to BOTH the stock shock tower brace bolts AND the upper control arm bolts, both of which are better locations to mount a brace than the upper shock hat nuts.




[Modified by PatrickGSR94, 1:58 AM 1/11/2003]

 

Yeah I searched earlier and did find out about the JG strut bar

In reality though, do you think it would be noticibly stiffer with a 3 point vs a 2 point?

Can someone who has owned both or a 3 point shed some light?

 

I like that Rigid bar too, for the price and the design. The only negative thing I have read about bars like the 3pt Benen, Carbing, Rigid and new JG Edelbrock that have the firewall mounting point is that they are not legal in some SCCA AutoX classes.

People who have them say, they really stiffen up the front end.

 

uhm i believe you are mistaken if u look at the car..IT IS LHD...battery and cylinder is in the normal USDM position...correct me if im not seeing anything or if you were talking about another pic...

 

I will not be auto-x'ing so it is not a concern to me.

Patrick means it was made for a RHD cars and that the MCR would not be in the way on a RHD.

So with a LHD and the bar, the MCR is in the way and you need to take the bar off to do work on your MCR.

 

I have to wonder how much you'll feel it.

also, do you have to drop the struts to fit these like the carbing requires?

 

yes but see how the bar is practically on top of the master cylinder there? If you search in the ITR forum you will find people have had issues fitting the Carbing bar to their LHD ITR's.

And the bar must really make a difference, since the SCCA sees it as such an advantage that they don't allow it (or any sort of triangulated chassis brace) in the stock classes.


[Modified by PatrickGSR94, 1:17 PM 1/11/2003]

 

LOL, i feel dumb... it says it right on the intake

 

Well, they've always said it in all of my math classes, all the way through college, that the strongest geometric shape is a triangle, so i think the bar works quite well!

 

How much is the JG bar? And where can I get it?

 

the reason for the price difference between the Carbing and Rigid bars is bc the carbing is aluminum and the rigid is steel...there is quite a bit of weight difference between the two

 

I need some glasses too. Probably spending too much time on H-T forums

 

Where did you even find that bar on AJR?? I cant find it...

 

it's not made by AJR, it's made by Rigid, I think.

 

Bennen also makes a real nice one that i want, i got the rear lower and cant wait to put it on!

 

The bar is made by Rigid.

Check under X-mas specials on their page to see the bar.

Rigid Also makes a pivotless rear upper strut bar.

 

I know that, i just saw it said AJR on the bottom of the pic and i could not find the bar anywhere. That car is Rupert-MooFX's car...

 

i installed my benen 3 point bar the other day and the difference in handling is like no other. Compared to the stock gsr and itr bar, the triangular design lets you turn corners like a champ. I hate the fact that the SCCA doesnt allow it since i bought it for autoX. I have the front upper benen bar along with the 2 rear spoon bars and the only thing stopping you from wiked corners is your tire grip. So you should get a 3 point bar. -)

 

wouldn't stiffening the front that much produce some mad understeer though?

 

I have a benen 3 point strut brace on my car... IT makes a world of difference. youll be amazed. I would seriously invest in one of these. heres a link to some pics of mine.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=323313

 

Adding a 3-point front bar will help steering responsiveness, but I don't think it will affect understeer like a larger front swaybar would.

 

I would definately do that