What tranny are you using? For those of you running the lude tranny, what tranny mount did you use? The reason I'm asking this is because I don't see how to get the motor in and sitting straight without moving the tranny mount bracket on the frame.

 

I have 4th gen Accord running a prelude tranny. I rewelded the tranny mount bracket on mine to get it to fit right.

 

What engine are u using?
What year lude is it from?
Was the car 5spd b4 the swap?
Is it an accord tranny or a prelude tranny?

 

I used a 96 jdm h22a tranny and engine

 

If the car had a 5 speed in it already, you will drill and tap the factory "bosses" on the Prelude tranny casing and relocate 2 of the studs. (this will allow you to use the Accord 5 speed mount)


[Modified by 2point6, 1:39 PM 1/7/2003]

 

Thank you very much. Mine 4th gen is 5spd already. So does the drill and tap not work if you were going from auto to 5spd? Just curious because this was the biggest issue with the last 2 swaps my friend did.

 

Conversion from Auto to 5 speed requires rewelding the tranny bracket (sheet metal) on the frame rail. You should still use the 5 speed Accord mount for this as well. The same drilling and tapping steps will be required.


[Modified by 2point6, 2:23 PM 1/7/2003]

 

HUH??????? i have a 4th gen with a 95 h22 motor and tranny, and nothing needed to be modified to put the motor in. i have taken the tranny out 4 or 5 times, and it goes back in, mount and all no problem. if you have problems, just unbolt the rear mount from the tranny, and put the motor in, then get under there and work it back in and bolt it up. real easy

 

You might want to try a 95 lude 5spd trans mount. It attaches to the frame the same as the 4th gen accords but it attaches to the tranny the same as the 92-01 ludes. That is what I used for my 01 h22 into my 93 accord

 

You should not have to re-weld anything when doing this swap. You should be able to find parts that will fit.

 

i am using a 96 h22 and jdm tranny h22 and i didnt have to do anything to mine

 

Have you actually done a 5 speed tranny conversion in a 4th gen? Rewelding is for the auto to manual conversion only. Here was his question again:


If it was a 5 speed car (like I asked in my original post), then the stock Accord brackets will work. You will just have to drill and tap the factory bosses on the Prelude tranny.




[Modified by 2point6, 7:04 AM 1/9/2003]

 

Yes, I did a auto to manual conversion and I did not have to re-weld anything. I used a 95 lude 5spd tranny mount. The attachment point on the body of the accord is the same for both auto and manual( as any mass produced car is, prelude as well). The prelude tranny studs are in a different pattern than the accord. Re-welding is an option but it is not the only option. My point is that different tranny mount will work. If you can weld, if you cannot get a different mount for whatever reason, or if you want to weld, then by all means do. I am just giving another option.

 

I do see part of your point, however, the cars even being "mass produced" (auto to manual) do have different sheet metal brakets. The part numbers are (this is the same for all 4th gen accords) manual bracket (sheet metal) is 60831-SM4-300ZZ, and the Auto # is 60832-SM4-970ZZ. I will try to get pictures as well. They are in 2 different locations. The tranny mount you have in place may work, but I would like to see the alignment of your engine (I am suggesting this objectively, Because if you have a solution, The 95 mount would be a hell of a lot easier to do than to weld) can you post a pic? I am skeptical, but I can be edjucated.


[Modified by 2point6, 9:22 AM 1/9/2003]

 

yeah same here. my friend said it will "fit" going this route but the engine wouldn't sit straight, which he hates and would rather re-weld the bracket. Luckily mine is already 5spd so this should not be a problem.

 

I am saying that the metal bracket that is welded to the frame is in the same spot on both auto and manual. The rubber section of the mount is also the same. I know that the bracket that bolts to the trans is different( I tried to use the 5spd bracket before I found the prelude monut). When I put in the prelude mount it bolted up perfectly. My engine sits beautifully, I will try to find some good pics and post them.

 

You are wrong. I posted the part numbers. There is a difference, however, I am interested in how you made the mount work, so please post up the pictures.

 

You are right, I am wrong. I thought they were the same. I would like to know how different they are. It seems to me that there cannot be too much of a difference in placement.

 

When changing the mount from auto to manual, I have had to relocate the bracket aproximately 1" lower on the rail and approximately 2" foreward. There is quite a difference, that is why I would like to see your set-up. If you found a easier way (that will keep the engine square) then I am all ears...

 

93Acclude, Can you still post a pic or 2?


[Modified by 2point6, 7:22 AM 1/10/2003]

 

I will post pics by the end of the weekend at the latest. I found some last night but I do not has access to a scanner at work.

I am a little curios about something, was the car you did the swap on damaged? I have never heard of anybody else having to re-weld that bracket.


Also, what year engine and tranny did you use? Was it JDM or USDM? What year accord was it.


[Modified by 93acclude, 3:55 PM 1/10/2003]

 

my friend has done two, both were JDM motors into a 93SE coupe and a 91EX sedan. Both were auto to manual as well. Not sure what year JDM H22a's but they were OBD1 with LSD

 

Maybe the transmissions are different between JDM and USDM. I used a 2001 H22A4 and a 93 ex. I did not have any problems making the mount fit. It just seems that too much is being done to get the mount to fit. Moving the bracket and tapping new holes seems extreme, but, there could be a difference in the bell housings that I do not know about.

 

I have done 7 auto to manual conversions. All with the same result. One was a USDM h22a4 (and tranny) there isn't anny difference in the tranny casing castings either, the other conversions were all JDM engines. All of the Accords use the same Auto bracket from 90-93.



[Modified by 2point6, 9:53 AM 1/10/2003]

 

Just curios, did you ever think to try a different tranny mount