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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 09:28 AM
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Default Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls?

I want to go ahead get a 75 shot of zex, and all i have is aem cai, and dc header. Would i be safe running this on an ls with 110,000 miles? Thanks
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 11:05 AM
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first do a compression test, if the results are good then your motor should be able to handle it. i recommend you get a fpr and later on get a fuel pump. also dont forget to buy colder plugs.

as for timing retard, i recommend you retard 2-3 degree. watch your plugs and if you think your car can handle stock timing then go for it.

and the zex kit is good for a 75 shot. if you want to go higher you will need to go DP. im saying this because i know people who buy zex then a week later they go buy a NOS DP kit or an NX DP kit.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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im going 100 shot on my ls teg, and not zex... I will go NOS or NX.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (fastacurachick)

Nitrous Express

75 shot would probably be ok...

but a 100 shot on stock internals, thats pushing it quite a bit
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (fastacurachick)

im going 100 shot on my ls teg, and not zex... I will go NOS or NX.
why not zex they make really good nitrous kits.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (Sears_Teg)

with proper tuning 125-135 is not a problem on a stock ls. dont trip just make sure your not running lean.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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^^^I use alot of nitrous on my teg and I would never use that much on a unmodified motor.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (Sears_Teg)

NX kits are rated to the wheels ( at least a 2% to the shot desired ), they dont need to be tuned and they dont have to have timing retards ( if i'm not mistaken ) all you need is colder plugs for a 55 shot , you'll need that fuel pump and fpr for anything higher.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 07:45 PM
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dont run more than a 50 shot w/o fpr and tuning. with 50 you can just do colder plugs and timing.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (integra2ner)

If you plan on installing 75 shot then plan on getting new internalls soon, because that motor will wear out quick. I'm not saying you will blow it but it is going to wear out pretty quick.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 10:07 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (enid84)

Go with the 50 shot buddy..

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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 06:04 AM
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my friend ran all last year on a 75 shot with no other mods besides intake, and his car went 13.8 all day long.. 15 degrees timing, nothing else..
Ps. He had nitrous express.. Car has been through 20 bottles and runs fuggin great.. I venture to say you could easily run 100 shot no problem, w/ fuel pump and fpr..Dont listen to people who dont have experience, I ran 100 shot on my gsr several times and It loved it also.. So did ITR206.. Go with the 75 shot
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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my friend ran all last year on a 75 shot with no other mods besides intake, and his car went 13.8 all day long.. 15 degrees timing, nothing else..
Ps. He had nitrous express.. Car has been through 20 bottles and runs fuggin great.. I venture to say you could easily run 100 shot no problem, w/ fuel pump and fpr..Dont listen to people who dont have experience, I ran 100 shot on my gsr several times and It loved it also.. So did ITR206.. Go with the 75 shot
word, ive been through 25 lbs of nitrous and my compression is still perfect. its on a gsr with a 75 shot DP kit.

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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 08:57 AM
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i dont doubt you guys havent had problems, but better to be safe than sorry. a newbie blowing his motor is not a good thing.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 09:04 AM
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dude like 80% of these people have no clue , they only knwo by the last post someon else posted on their set up they dont knw from doing it
I had nittrous on my R sice i bought it 2.5yrs or so ago .
i had a dry 60, single fogger 80 and dp 100 getting ready to do 125 all on stock internals and ran like a ************.
just tune it good.
make sure the fuel is there. on my dry ktit he fuel wasnt there so i ditched it and started upgrading fuel from there and got a kit to inject the fuel with the nitrous to even it out more and intensify the charge.
once you add the fuel with the nitrous it is alot more intense then the dry shot
and my timing i ran 80 shot many many many times with no detonation, i run sunoco 94 all the time on my car.
with the 100 shot i kicked it back to 2-2.5 degrees under stock just to be safe
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 10:36 AM
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first do a compression test, if the results are good then your motor should be able to handle it. i recommend you get a fpr and later on get a fuel pump. also dont forget to buy colder plugs.

as for timing retard, i recommend you retard 2-3 degree. watch your plugs and if you think your car can handle stock timing then go for it.

and the zex kit is good for a 75 shot. if you want to go higher you will need to go DP. im saying this because i know people who buy zex then a week later they go buy a NOS DP kit or an NX DP kit.
Obviously you have no clue about N20 cause you don't need to get a ****** DP kit to run more than a 75 shot. You can run more than that on a SF wet kit and still be plenty safe as long as you have good fuel system and ignition. I have noticed that no one has mentioned ignition which is a pretty crucial element in running nitrous with no problems. Also a rule of thumb is that every 50 hp shot of N20 retard timing 2 degrees
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:23 PM
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hmm are you talking about hondas or about cars in general? lol if he had an ls1 then 100 dry single shot would not be a problem. yeah you could get away with a 100 shot sf a couple times but but thats really on the edge. just go dp so you know how much each cyclinder is getting.

oh what if his block is built? yeah then it could handle. but if your gonna build a block why not go the whole 9 yards and go DP.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (H22EK)

double pst


[Modified by gsrstyle, 9:48 PM 1/6/2003]
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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I am talking about a SF WET kit, do you not know the difference between wet and dry? If you don't know what the hell you are talking about then don't talk


[Modified by H22EK, 5:54 PM 1/6/2003]
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (integra2ner)

I want to go ahead get a 75 shot of zex, and all i have is aem cai, and dc header. Would i be safe running this on an ls with 110,000 miles? Thanks
back to the ORIGINAL post people. the answer is yes, so long as you have good compression, retard timing, get colder plugs and premium fuel.. and fpr and ignition is highly suggested. with 50, you dont need the fpr and ignition, altho it never hurts to be extra safe.
again my advice is to get 50. learn from it. gain experience. then just change the pill and nozzle to 75 if you want. 100shot/direct port/etc.. im sure you dont want to go that extreme yet. and obviously not a good choice for a rookie
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Default Re: Can I run a 75 shot safe on a ls? (H22EK)

I am talking about a SF WET kit, do you not know the difference between wet and dry? If you don't know what the hell you are talking about then don't talk


[Modified by H22EK, 5:54 PM 1/6/2003]
yeah, i knew you were talking about a wet shot. i just used a "dry shot on a ls1" as an example becuase they can handle either wet or dry with a shot that big.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 09:54 PM
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new efi v8s run like *** with wet kits. dry is better for those cars. with all the knock sensor auto timing retard fuel enrichment cool **** the ecu does, those dry kits are awesome for the lt1/ls1.

for a honda with stock internals 125 is very possisble with a dp and tuning.
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