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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 08:29 PM
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ok, my car turns over but will not run.
i just changed my ault. and changed my timming. its a little tiny bit advanced. i took off the belt from the cam gear. i did not remove the cam gear or crank pully. and then turned the cam gear till it was a little tiny bit advanced. put the bet back on.
it has compression in all cylinders, i replaced all the spark plugs. its getting spark to all of them. has fuel pressure, try to start it with engine starter fluid. and no luck.
it will turn over all i want till my batt. dies. but it will not start and run. does anyone have any ideas of what it could be?
please help if anyone can, any ideas will be of help.
thank you...!!!
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 09:17 PM
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check your grounds.
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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so, you advanced your timing by jumping a full tooth on a stock timing gear? one tooth is accually a huge difference in timing! I'd put it back where it was. also, when you change your cam timing, it changes your ignition timing (the distributor runs off of the cam) so, you need to re-set the ignition timing.

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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 12:59 AM
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Default Re: help please car will not run. (thumpu77)

thank you guys i will do both of thoes. i am pretty sure my grounds are good but i had the problem once. thanx!!! and as for timming thats kinda want i am guessing it might be. i will look in to that more in the morring, thank you again!!!
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 04:11 AM
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any more ideas? injectors maybe? or air, could it be air? not best bet is timming. i didnt bend a valve is it has ok compression and still turns over fine with no weird sounds?
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 05:21 AM
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Once you do the timing and if it still doesn't work try the
MAIN RELAY=COMMON PROBLEM

Go to your local Honda dealer and have them put one in. It will cost $48.00 or so for the part installed. Hope this helps!




[Modified by broncoman74, 2:25 PM 1/5/2003]
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 06:44 AM
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its gotta be the timing dude
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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well i put my timming back to normal. and it still does not run, turns over but does not run. timming as far as i knwo is good. How do you Reset the ignition timming? it seems to be at cylinder #1. or is that #4 on a d16 from a 88-91 crx? its the closest to the distribitor. the shortest plug wire. thats #1 right?
well if its the main relay how do i check if its that or not? can i stick a test light to it or something? where is the main relay?
thank you guys so much, i have been with out a car for liek 5 days not and i am really getting upset. i just want the damn thing to run.
thanx!!!
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 02:48 PM
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The main relay controls the fuel pump. You should hear it make a click or spring sound when you turn the ignition to on. It is located somewhere above the hood release and held in by a 10mm bolt i believe. You should also be able to hear the fuel pump prime if everything is working... it makes a humming sound.

You can always check by taking the fuel line off and see if fuel comes out.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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thanx.
yeah but my fuel pump works, i mean i have pressure at teh filter so must work.
i think maybe timming again.
i have a STR cam gear, and there are 3 small lines on it. 2 are to line up with the head and one is to line up with the timming mark on the motor. then there is a adjustment marks a bunch of little lines grouped together. witha ZERO in the middle. i have useing the adjustment makes as my timming marks. so i think i amdoing it up side down. that is no correct right? i need to flip the cam gear up side down and line the 2 marks up with the head and the other with timming mark. and the move the block to its right place and then put it back together and start it.
am i thinking about all this right?
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 04:56 PM
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first, turn your crank so the TDC mark lines up with the timing pointer:


then, turn the cam gear so the timing adjustments are facing up.....


and the alignment line lines up with the marker on the timing cover:

then, slip your belt on.


as far as ignition timing goes.... get a helms manual... accually, any manual will tell you how to do that.


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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Default Re: help please car will not run. (thumpu77)

dude your the F-ING man!!! on and nice cam gear i have the same one. and how the hell did you get your motor that clean, i thought mine was. your motor is spotless. well yes!!! that helped a lot. means my timming is very off. thank you so much again!!! that was very very help full.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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its the closest to the distribitor. the shortest plug wire. thats #1 right?
Are you sure you have your plug wires on right? Correct me if im wrong guys but the #1 cylinder and plug is the one at the front of the motor. Which would be the one closest to the cam gear, farthest from the distibutor. Does the distributor on a sohc fire as the b16/b18s? If so it would fire 1-3-4-2. So the shortest plug would fire third on the distributor.
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Old Jan 5, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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Correct me if im wrong guys but the #1 cylinder and plug is the one at the front of the motor. Which would be the one closest to the cam gear, farthest from the distibutor
You are corect, he was lining his engine up to #4 instead of #1 which is why he was having problems.

and how the hell did you get your motor that clean, i thought mine was. your motor is spotless.
I'm curently in the process of re-building that engine, It's been hot-tanked at a machine shop, the grey back peice of the timing cover is brand new (the old one melted), and the rest of the timing cover and the valve cover have been re-painted. It hasn't been run yet. There's more pics on the link in my signature.
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Old Jan 6, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Default Re: help please car will not run. (thumpu77)

thanx again.
you know i had it running like a weekago with it timmed off the #4. haha! it ran ok to. oh well. i kinda some how striped the bolt for the t-belt tentioner so its going to take me a little while to get that out i need a 6 point 14.
damn you are a mad man THUMPU77. taking apart your trans. thats kinda nuts! but your motor is so damn pretty i love it. and your car is very nice 2. i hope my crx can look 1.2 that nice one day?
thank you all once again!!!
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