I just saw this today and thought I'd share.

This chart shows the cumulative effects of adding a number of bolt-ons onto a K20A2 Acura RSX-S engine.

One car was used for the first three tests - stock, Hondata K20A2 flash and CAI. A second car was used for the last two tests, Greddy catback and ITR cams with K20A reflash.

Each dyno chart is cumulative - that is it has all the bolt-ons of the charts of lower power. The next modifications added will be ITR intake, header and Hondata intake gasket.

The purpose of this exercise is to gain some insight into the best order of adding bolt ons.



too bad its not an integra

 

its funny that when I put up good technical info on the RSX all the haters stay quiet.

 

yeah because, you know, the whole hour and 2 minutes you gave was sufficient

not really. those are some good numbers

 

[QUOTE]yeah because, you know, the whole hour and 2 minutes you gave was sufficient

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are you sure? check the dates. and it already had some 125 views.

 

whoops my bad.

anyway, this post had 3 posts and 104 views
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=367445

and this post had 5 posts and 190 views
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=365358


and this post had 5 posts and 290 views
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=366584

super amount of views doesn't mean haters are staying silent =P

 

no it just means they cant find any flaws to pick at.

 

if you want something that goes fast in a straight line, pick up a domestic.

asides that, 210 whp out of those 5 mods, yeah, ok...i do call bs, but whatever...if you think you can get a good 260 hp out of the car, so be it. + good luck with the reliability issue + low maintenence factor.

btw, i dont dislike the rsx, asides the ugly headlights, but i do dislike 90% of the stunnah's who drive this thing around.... but again...

thanks for driving a rsx .

-dc2 owner.


[Modified by Soup ****, 6:42 PM 12/28/2002]

 

or it just means that they didn't read it. RSX people view this forum too, there's a good majority of your topic views, or just lurkers.

 

actually I was waiting for someone to call BS. so you are saying that the people from Hondata are full of ****? cause that is where the dyno came from.

son till you find a better argument just be quiet. children should be seen and not heard.

 

since when does age equal absolute credibility in an argument? maybe you should take another glance at your advice. you try to call me childish, yet you are the one using the insults as a rebuttal. real mature.

 

I couldn't figure out why your arguments didn't make any sense, then I checked your age and I realized I was arguing with someone in high school. You would not know this but with age comes experience and wisdom. And anybody would agree that when they were 17 they did not know anything but they thought they knew it all. Come back to me in ten years when you are done playing Pokemon then I'll listen to what you have to say.


[Modified by PhatAssAcura, 12:16 AM 12/29/2002]

 

explain to me EXACTLY how none of my arguments make sense. so far i have not seen you reply directly to any of the points i'veposted. so far you've just dragged this out and on to another topic that has nothing to do with the original topic. i'm sitting here wondering the exact same thing you say you are.

if you ever want to have a civilized, relevant debate on some random topic, feel free. perhaps i can break you out of the stereotype that all highschoolers are ricers and stunnaz. i do not consider me sitting here and you throwing insults at me as civilized. i love the stereotypes and generalizations, and especially the ignorance. obviously with your experience and wisdom, you lost civility.

 

Ok kid, this is the last time imma reply to you. but the reason your replies dont make any sense is because you gave me three examples that were horrible. 2 were about the type R being brought over, and one is about installing an intake. the reason nobody posted on there is because the type R topic has been beaten into the ground, and who cares about installing an intake that has been around for over a year. Those are the reasons nobody probably posted in those threads. I posted something new and interesting that I have never seen anyone on here discuss, I think that a thread about how an Intake, Cams, exhaust and an Ecu upgrade can give 50 hp is a pretty interesting thing. that is why when you gave me 3 examples of people not posting in threads that were old and beaten to death didnt make much sense to me. do you understand now Pikachu?

 

What could have been an excellent thread about the potential of the K20 has turned into a slinging match. Could you guys use IM please? That would be a sign of both your supposed maturity.

Soup ****, I wouldn't call BS on this. These mod's produce repeatable results on different RSX's. Reliability is another question. Only time will tell, although I think an RSX will cope fine with 210whp. In terms of maintenance, if you treat the car right I don't see why it would need much more attention than normal. Perhaps the clutch will wear faster, but I dont think it would require the same care as running high-lift cams in a B18C. The Type R cams only have longer duration and the RSX valve springs are already same as Type R springs.

 

A few points...

1) Does anyone else think that 150hp is a bit low for a stock RSX-S? I've seen SAE corrected Dynojet dynos of RSX-Ses in the 165-170 range... That seems to be at least 10-15% too low based on the TypeS dynos that I've seen.

2) Hondata, like all other aftermarket parts manufacturers, is in the business is selling its products. I am always suspect of any manufacturer-provided dyno charts, as it is always in their best interest to make their products look as attractive as possible.

3) I have yet to see an independent SAE corrected DynoJet plot of a Hondata ECU upgrade.

I'm not saying that similar gains are not there to be had. 210whp with DC5 ITR cams does sound pretty realistic to me. I just have not seen any convincing independent dyno evidence of it yet. I don't put a lot of stock in dyno charts that look like they were made with Microsoft Excel and were provided by someone selling a product.

Andrew

 

haha go play with poke'mons

im somewhat skeptical about the dyno results from these simple modifications and the same goes with cybernationmotorsport's turbo power with such low boost. if this infact is true, rsx owners have a great motor to play around with.

also, dLo from what im noticing is turning like soup ****, just being an *** about rsx's just because they dont like it. they are entitled to thier opinion but post after post about how they dont like it is just like a land fill, mountain of **** stinking up the place.

 

Click below for a basic example of RSX with bolt-ons.

http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread...threadid=58896


edit: what i typed didn't make sense.


[Modified by mpd076, 9:05 PM 12/29/2002]


[Modified by mpd076, 9:06 PM 12/29/2002]

 

damn nice numbers.

 

150 HP is low. So is the 160 HP on the graph. We do note on the Hondata web site that this vehicle had low miles at the time of testing (1000-1500).

Yes, the charts were made in Excel. The reason for this is to better correlate and present data in a meaningful form. The aim of the charts is not to demonstrate absolute power, but comparative changes.

Yes, we do sell ECU upgrades. We do not sell Greddy exhausts, ITR cams or cold air intakes though, which you will also find on these charts. We provide accurate information as well as a reasonable amount of technical information which you will find on hondata.com. If our claims did not stand up, we would not remain in business.

Many independant dynojet charts can be found on clubRSX.com. Here is one from Oscar Jackson testing their stock test RSX vs a Hondata tuned K20A ITR with bolt-ons.

 

YOu go Hondata, I ordered the program btw, just waiting forever for the box..