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Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound?

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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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Default Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound?

You know that knock the motor makes under a load before fully warmed up.

Kinda that diesel sound, but way less noticable as it is not a diesel obviously.

Just me or what?
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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p.s. not the valve light click noise either, I know the difference and adjust my valves constantly.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 10:25 PM
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use some synthetic (like 1 quart worth in a oil change). I do and in 132k miles I have no lash and/or valve-train noise...

frequent oil changes are a must

edit: I just realized that this car has also never had it's valves adjusted. Ever.


[Modified by RotaryBzzz, 11:26 PM 12/24/2002]
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (RotaryBzzz)

No diesel noises here. Nice and smooth sounding even when cold . I know what you're talking about though. My moms '94 Accord EX (~167k) makes some noises when it's cold similar to what you describe. She had a valve lash adjustment not too long ago as well and it still does it, so I guess that's just the way those motors are. Still runs great though, and it doesn't seem to be hurting anything.
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 07:56 AM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (twkdCD595)

same sound on my 93, I've got a bit over 250,000 miles but I don't remember it doing it back when it had like 40K or so. Doesn't seem to be causing any problems, yet...

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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 08:30 AM
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this is very normal, the f-series motors are known as "sewing machine motors" and they are heard better when its cold outside. its not my valves either since i had them adjusted like 5k ago and barely hit 5krpm in my car(i dont need to).

its normal, but it IS annoying.
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (twkdCD595)

mine did that **** and got progressivley worse. got to the point the car shut off while driving. i did oil change after oil change. thicker oil... blah blah blah. didnt work!
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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mine did that **** and got progressivley worse. got to the point the car shut off while driving. i did oil change after oil change. thicker oil... blah blah blah. didnt work!
Thats because you blew your motor up, your problem doesn't go for everyone else
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 11:19 AM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (EuRoBrO)

What grade motor oil you using?(af1 dude)
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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rod knock? LOL

do you know what rod knock sounds like?
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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 06:41 PM
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So, even though its "ok" for the engine to make the sound, is there anything we can do (besides adjusting the valves so they dont fully close) to make it stop or quiet? Like, newer F's dont do it right? so, a completely new valve train? excessive, but would it even do it? Is the soarce of the sound known?

just my brain wandering... Merry Christmas everyone!

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Old Dec 25, 2002 | 08:27 PM
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if you adjust the valves too much, you will get horrible gas mileage...not worht it.

even some h22's make this noise too
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (EuRoBrO)

Thats because you blew your motor up, your problem doesn't go for everyone else
ummmm.... no! i never blew my motor. still ran b4 i took it out. thanks anyways
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (ratherbewalking)

forgot I started this thread.

YES YOU TURD I KNOW WHAT ROD KNOCK SOUNDS LIKE. I have broken enough motors to know. Its not that loud obviously or I think I would know it is a serious problem instantly.

Yeah and ps I have 85k miles.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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YES YOU TURD I KNOW WHAT ROD KNOCK SOUNDS LIKE.
Who are you calling a turd?

I wouldnt describe the normal sounds of a honda motor as rod knock. If you disagree thats fine. But rod knock is usually a term to describe a problem.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (Nick M)

*clank, clank, cla-clank, clank*

oh yeah thats some smooth idle sound there, LOL
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (twkdCD595)

You know that knock the motor makes under a load before fully warmed up.

Kinda that diesel sound, but way less noticable as it is not a diesel obviously.

Just me or what?
My '92 has just started doing that recently, and I'm worried. Running 10W instead of 5W oil seemed to help a bit. It goes away when the motor is warmed up. It is such a gawd-awful sound though. It sounds something like the cars in Grand Theft Auto (the very first version) when they were about to blow up.

I adjusted the valve lash but that didn't seem to help. Oh well. I hope it's nothing serious. The car still runs better than ever.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (mr2td)

Nevermind, it was just a quick description of a FAINT LIGHT noise I hear intermitently at low rpm under a load.

This is moot anyway, I just pulled the motor for sleeves... thanx.

ps. yes your a turd, go be overly critical with some other thread.

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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (twkdCD595)

Im not being overly critical.

You take my words too seriously.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 08:24 PM
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sure lets leave it at that.

happy new years a bit early.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (twkdCD595)

Play nice kids
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 09:56 AM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (SlowAssAccord)

all engines sound different when they are cold due to lack of oil circulation. my car sounds like just what it is.... a 4cyl once it has warmed up, it is much quieter. takes a few mins but no big deal...
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Old Jan 2, 2003 | 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (twkdCD595)

The sound you hear is most likely just a little piston shake. In extreme cases it is harmful, but a little while cold is ok. Both my 91 Accord and my 98ITR sound quite different while cold than once warmed up, but both have the sewing machine sound as well. My 3.2 is a whole different story though, nothin but purrs out of that engine, but to date I only have 1265.8 miles on it. It's still on it's break-in oil.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Default Re: Is it just me or do all accord motors have that rod knock/ piston slap sound? (trouser chili)

What exactly do these sound like? ticks? slaps? knocking sounds?

I hear ticking sounds when i drive sometimes, definately more frequently at night when it is cold... what can it be and what are possible fixes?

First car for me so I dont know what rod knock/piston slap/valve ticking sounds like so im not certain where to start.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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it basically sounds like a faint sewing machine noise, hence the "sewing machine" motor. to make sure its not your valves, rev up your car VIA throttle cable in engine bay and listen to the head for valve noises. if there is no noise coming from that specific region, you are ok. i think the sewing machine noise is due to noisy fuel injectors, like the integras. i work at a honda dealership and accords with over 50k miles and with a recent valve adjustment all make that noise. its normal.
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