well... i am very close to getting a civic and doing a b18b swap, hopefully within 1 months that will all be done, my goal is to have about 300 hp, what would be the cheapest way to get there, but do everything right. do i need to sleeve my block or just get pistons and rods, would you reccomend a turbo kit that would get me to my goal or should i piece one together myself, and in the end how much do you think im gonna spend on the motor, clutch, stronger axels?, lsd, ect..
i know there are lots of questions, but hopefully you guys can help me out on this

 

revhard turbo kit, forged internals, block guard, hondata s200, profec b boost controller...boosting 12psi, 3" turbo back exhaust...

that sould get your real close

 

why bother doing a swap? Just send the block to golden eagle and have them bore it out to a 1.9L and use some good rods and pistons....

 

i was kinda thinking about that, but if i want to turn it into an all drag car later on in the future or just build it a lot more, i wouldnt want to be limited by the sohc, and i can get a b18b for about $700 from my friends junk yard... so its not gonna set me back too much for that

 

thats what i have except for the forged internals and block guard. motor is stock and almost at 300.

 

interesting...at 12psi what kinda gas were u running?

 

do you guys think this is a nice kit:
max-rev manifold
rev hard downpipe
tial 35mm wastegate
t3/t4 turbo
max-rev intercooler
hondata s200 w/boost
HKS ss bov
stainless oil lines
would have to get custom piping at muffler shop
$2849

from ks-motorsports.com

 

sounds good man.. maxrev

 

Texaco, 93 octane. max rev kit is good too. ksmotorsports

 

with the kit i posted would it be necessary to also do pistons/rods ect? or would i be fine with the stock motor?

 

look at what Stoopid did w/ a stock block.....11 sec times slips.

 

yes 300 hp would be awesome. any est on what that would run in the 1/4 i est around mid 12s, what do you think?

 

With a stock junk yard LS motor and just under 12psi, i made 277whp and 241.5ft-lb tq. on 93 pump gas. The LS motor is definitely capable of 300whp around 15psi w/ the right turbo.

 

Everything looks good but you also have to remember that the max rev manifold wont fit the rev hard dp. GL

 

damn, so its gonna be another 250 or so to get the max hard downpipe

or would it be cheaper to get a different manifold?

 

just make you own DP and for 300 hp u mean wheels or crank. im shooting for 250 wheel HP on a stock b16 block. with the right fuel manegment and tuning u could get 300. ive heard 12 psi on stock b series blocks is about as high as u want to go. but if u built up your block u could hit 300hp no problem.

 

i would probably push it as hard as possible with the stock block until i have the money to build it or something breaks, then build it

how hard would it be to tune the hondata, there isnt a hondata tuner within 500 miles of boise


[Modified by dmotoguy, 4:12 PM 12/25/2002]

 

bump..

 

Tech edge wideband kit + Hondata


[Modified by CzanSOHC, 3:54 PM 12/25/2002]

 

110% correct.

Without forged internals at this level you're on borrowed time.

Build it right and it'll run 300 whp for a LONG time. No sleeve required.
Just keep close to stock sized pistons. (81mm- 81.5mm)

Jeffrey Atwood


[Modified by Jefnes, 8:02 PM 12/25/2002]

 

can you explain why i would need the wideband, well actually i guess thats self explanitory... if i had a wideband and the hondata, would i be able to just do runs up and down my road and tune it? or would i need a dyno?

how easy is it to screw up when doing your own tuning, i know what to do, but if i make too big of a correction or something could anything go wrong?

 

You CANNOT tune without a wideband, you can buy your own or
take the car to a shop.

Have you ever driven a 300+ whp Honda? Yeah, you can tune the
part throttle and offbost/low boost on the street, the car will be too
damn fast to tune the topend on the street. Its possible, but difficult
with a 'partner'. Driver and 'tuner' in the car....

Jeffrey Atwood

 

Acutally you SHOULDN'T tune the car without a wideband. But saying that you totally can't is untrue.

Also when you tune a car it isn't done real time. You make a run, watch the datalogging, make changes, do and another run, repeat. You could totally tune your car on the street, but doing a dozen runs to redline is a bit much to ask of public streets.

A dyno/wideband is the prefered way, but a really good tuner could get your car really close to ideal with out a wideband and/or a dyno.

 

i have never driven a 300 hp turbo honda before, but i have driven a 500 hp 71 chevy nova, a 450 hp 64 corvette, a 550 hp 66 corvette, and a 250 or so hp turbo integra... so i think i could handle it, i do have access to a dyno, and i was planning on getting a wideband. would it be worth the extra $700 or so to step up to an AEM ems over the hondata?

 

if you get the rev hard dp, you can be cheap and get a 4 bolt pattern flange and replace the 5 bolt on the rev hard