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Old Dec 22, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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Hey folks.
I'd like to introduce myself as Darryl from Ultimate Racing. We recently acquired a silver 2002 Honda S2000 as a project car and have since developed a very impressive turbo kit. This is what it consists of:

-Custom heavy gauge mild steel exhaust manifold with polished aluminum heat shield
-HKS external wastegate
-Garrett TO4E/T3 turbocharger
-Custom 2.5" stainless steel (SS) downpipe
-Large front mount Spearco intercooler kit with 2.5" polished SS piping
-Custom 3" polished SS air intake pipe with high performance K&N filter
-HKS Super Sequential Valve (SSQV) with mounting flange
-High flowing 440cc fuel injectors
-Pre-programmed Greddy E-Manage piggy-back computer system
-Oil filter re-location kit which retains stock oil cooler
-All lines, fittings, hoses, etc needed for install

Please note that NO other factory parts will have to be removed or modified other than what is replaced by the kit.

We believe that our S2000 turbo kit is the most complete kit on the market. Whereas other kits include an FMU, we've gone the distance and provided larger injectors, and a <U>pre-programmed</U> piggy-back unit...the Greddy E-Manage.

Here are some pictures of the kit. 56K beware!

















The price of this kit will be approximately $5500 usd. The kit is about 98% complete at this point. Once the kit is complete we will release the final pricing.

If you have any questions or inquiries, please feel free to contact me at darryl@ultimate-racing.com or visit our soon to be revised website which should be completed this week at http://www.ultimate-racing.com



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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 02:45 AM
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wow looks good. Props...


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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 05:10 AM
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looking good, I did notice one thing though.

I noticed that you didn't list any oild feed or oil drain lines/fittings. I'e been doing some research on what oil feed/drain lines I'm doing for my turbo Lude, and I just noticed that wasn't on your list.
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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That rocks
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 09:16 AM
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 09:50 AM
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Hey thanks for the compliments guys!

BlueShadow : Actually the kit comes complete WITH ALL LINES. Sorry that was my fault for not including that in the kits contents.

Here is a little more eye candy of another type for you guys...hope you like it.

Here is our most current dyno plot for the S2000 Turbo Kit. Our kit produced 271.5 whp and 188.9 ft.lbs of torque. This was accomplished at 7psi of boost pressure.



Here is a comparison of our turbo kit versus stock S2000 numbers


This is a link to a comparison of the top two supercharger kits VS the Ultimate Racing Turbo Kit. Sorry had to link it because it's a very large image
http://members.rogers.com/johnsonlii...comparison.jpg

Notice the incredible amount of midrange and more useable powerband produced by our turbo kit. In both hp and tq, our kit makes more power than both our competitors' supercharger kits in the 3000-7500 rpm range. At only 7psi this setup would be ideal for any type of racing whether it be road racing, or drag.

Of course for those of you wanting higher peak horsepower numbers, Ultimate Racing is taking the next step and is currently testing a variety of new turbochargers to give you, the consumer, a choice of a two different turbo setups. One which would produce explosive amounts of power in the midrange (like the setup above), and one setup that will also give an impressive midrange but an even better top end. The latter would be better suited for those wanting high HP figures...most likely Drag racers.

So stay in touch as I will keep you all in touch as to the progress and availability of this our turbo kit.

Thanks guys

Darryl


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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 10:08 AM
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Great looking kit But I do have a few concerns

1. The raditor

as you can see in the picture the IC is hogging the whole front access to air which in turn cuts back on the amount of cool air that actually feeds through the radiator. How is that going to affect the cooling capabilities of the radiator?

2.
In this shot...do you see that set of blue hoses that are running somewhat parallel to the upper IC pipe. I'm not sure how close those hoses are to the belts (the picture may be deceiving), but they pose aa a potential problem which doesn't seem that it will lead to any good. Depending on certain manuvers of the car, those hoses may move enough to touch the belts and tear.

Nonetheless to the setup

Oh ps...




Looks like you guys have been installing these turbo kits in a couple of S2000's. The engine bays are different colors (one's black & the other is silver)
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Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:44 AM
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Good observations! As far as the radiator is concerned...we have not yet tested the turbo kit in the summer since it's winter here in Toronto. The S2000 has a rather large rad and we don't believe we'll encounter any cooling problems whatsoever. From our experience in building custom turbo kits for other Honda's...we've never had any problems...even with very large intercoolers.

The blue hoses are actually not close to the belts. The picture IS deceiving. There is plenty of room for the hoses to move. In fact...they are usually cable-tied and out of the way.

As for the colors of the car...you're right again! Our original prototype car was a black S2000. Since then we've purchased a silver S2000 and have been finishing the remainder on it.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 04:20 AM
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Nonetheless, great looking setup I would like to find out what kind of numbers you guys achieve with more boost. Should be better than other kits since your kit comes with a fuel computer.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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Wicked_R
Again thanks for the compliments. Our goal was not to produce a kit that ran large amounts of boost out of the box. Our goal was to develop a kit that could be installed EASILY, be RELIABLE, and of course...give some nice POWER!
However, we are confident...that this setup is capable of producing 400-450+ whp easily given a properly built engine.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 11:14 AM
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what do you have for fuel and timing management?
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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We use the Greddy E-Manage Piggy-Back Computer. It's a great little computer that gives us control over fuel, timing, and it references boost too! Plus it comes pre-programmed with the turbo kit!


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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Wicked_R

Good observations! As far as the radiator is concerned...we have not yet tested the turbo kit in the summer since it's winter here in Toronto. The S2000 has a rather large rad and we don't believe we'll encounter any cooling problems whatsoever. From our experience in building custom turbo kits for other Honda's...we've never had any problems...even with very large intercoolers.
While I may concure w/ you on the majority of other honda's; the s2000, in particular, is very sensetive to ambient temps, and of all the hondas (in my recollection) is the most benefited by cooling upgrades; e.g. low temp theromstat, etc. I'm not at all knocking your kit, nor your efforts, but from what I've read, and empirically experienced, the F20c likes a lot of cooling, and air flow. You may, when it becomes pertinent, want to revisit imporving flow to the radiator, or include a low temp theromstat w/ the kit, or additional cooling orfice if possible.

Just my 2 cents.

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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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We use the Greddy E-Manage Piggy-Back Computer. It's a great little computer that gives us control over fuel, timing, and it references boost too! Plus it comes pre-programmed with the turbo kit!


[Modified by kidkutz, 3:46 PM 12/24/2002]
finally something that is set-up right, although I'm not too crazy about piggy back systems, at least you are setting it up the right away instead of high rate fmu's. How do you like the greddy system? I ran a vafc and wished I never got it, sold that thing asap. It was the main reason I gave up on all motor b/c there is no real stand along tuning system, maybe the greddy system will be somewhat tunable?

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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 12:41 PM
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I am a BIG fan of the Greddy E-Manage. In my opinion it is the best kept secret in the Honda world! Although it's a piggy-back system...it does absolutely everything we want it to do for a street turbo setup. Of course a standalone computer is top notch...it really doesn't suit this application. Our goal is to have something out that WORKS! We too are sick of turbo setups that consist of FMU's, additional injectors, and so forth. We figured it was about time someone did something right! Larger injectors and a computer system to manage is the way to go. Ask any pro engine builder. They'll tell you the same.
Many people don't realize how important these things are. What we're use to is people looking at the pictures, then the price...then they ask why it costs so much? I'm constantly explaining why are kit costs the way it does. We've saved you atleast 3-5 hours of dyno tuning as well. We give you absolutely everything necessary to get it ro run safe...and most importantly run well.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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I am a BIG fan of the Greddy E-Manage. In my opinion it is the best kept secret in the Honda world! Although it's a piggy-back system...it does absolutely everything we want it to do for a street turbo setup. Of course a standalone computer is top notch...it really doesn't suit this application. Our goal is to have something out that WORKS! We too are sick of turbo setups that consist of FMU's, additional injectors, and so forth. We figured it was about time someone did something right! Larger injectors and a computer system to manage is the way to go. Ask any pro engine builder. They'll tell you the same.
Many people don't realize how important these things are. What we're use to is people looking at the pictures, then the price...then they ask why it costs so much? I'm constantly explaining why are kit costs the way it does. We've saved you atleast 3-5 hours of dyno tuning as well. We give you absolutely everything necessary to get it ro run safe...and most importantly run well.
**cough** AEM EMS... **cough**

I'm not sure what all is new with the E-manage, but the last time I checked on it the software that allows you to tune ALL of the E-manages features is only available at Greddy tuners/dealers.

I'm not exactly sure what basic adjustments you could make without the software, but not having the software available to the public means that you wont be doing any DIY tuning. That's good if you dont know jack about tuning your own car that way you dont "break" anything, but not so good if you plan on doing your own tuning.
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Would be nice to see a dyno plot with the VTEC dissabled.

I noticed that the horsepower and torque drops when the VTEC engages.

Valve overlap bad for boost. Great lowend/midrange numbers though.
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Old Dec 24, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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**cough** AEM EMS... **cough**

I'm not sure what all is new with the E-manage, but the last time I checked on it the software that allows you to tune ALL of the E-manages features is only available at Greddy tuners/dealers.

I'm not exactly sure what basic adjustments you could make without the software, but not having the software available to the public means that you wont be doing any DIY tuning. That's good if you dont know jack about tuning your own car that way you dont "break" anything, but not so good if you plan on doing your own tuning.
if you do a quick search on s2ki.com, you'll find a lot of unhappy owners of the AEM ems. I do not have experience with it, but it's a new platform that doesn't really come with base maps to work off of, so AEM basically let their customers be the guinea pigs to test for base maps.
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Hi, thought you guys might be interested in seeing an elternative use for s2k power. This s2k motor is powering my sand rail. It has a GT3540 BB Turbo, 321 stainless exhaust by Bondio Fabrication (www.bondiofab.com), Darton sleeves, ARP studs, Tial wg, HKS bov, RC 1600cc injectors pumping methanol, Autronic SMC ECU tuned by Strader Perfomance (www.dynospeed.com) in Lake Elsinore, CA. Anybody seen anything like this before? It sounds wicked at 9k rpm on boost!

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MxeTU0MQ%3D%3D
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/we...MxeTU0MQ%3D%3D
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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any more pics of the sand rail?
*edit* pics of suspension pleeeze!


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Good observations! As far as the radiator is concerned...we have not yet tested the turbo kit in the summer since it's winter here in Toronto. The S2000 has a rather large rad and we don't believe we'll encounter any cooling problems whatsoever. From our experience in building custom turbo kits for other Honda's...we've never had any problems...even with very large intercoolers.

The blue hoses are actually not close to the belts. The picture IS deceiving. There is plenty of room for the hoses to move. In fact...they are usually cable-tied and out of the way.

As for the colors of the car...you're right again! Our original prototype car was a black S2000. Since then we've purchased a silver S2000 and have been finishing the remainder on it.
Not to be a nag, but you DID get permission to advertise with the Admin,right?

If not,please clear this with User name:Dustin or Mike.

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any plans on selling just the manifolds to us do-it -yourselfers?
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OMG, nice.
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Welcome GOD....
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