Type R Suspension Swap Complete. Pics Inside!!!
We just got done swapping over the suspension on jeromy's(evilxkid) hatch. Looks really good, and now he's got the disks all around, ahh yeah!!!

Stock front is on the right, Type R is on the left

wheels
Rear all bolted in, direct fit!!!
All done!
and here's a few bad *** motor pics with my shinny valvecover
. Daily driven stock bottom end by the way, stage 3 cams+ TWM's= 10,000RPM consistent.
Stock front is on the right, Type R is on the left
wheels
Rear all bolted in, direct fit!!!
All done!
and here's a few bad *** motor pics with my shinny valvecover
. Daily driven stock bottom end by the way, stage 3 cams+ TWM's= 10,000RPM consistent.
http://www.todaracing.com/products/h...ction_kit.html
**** what kind of power all motor you guys have? maybe i need to put the turbo project down and head n/a
**** what kind of power all motor you guys have? maybe i need to put the turbo project down and head n/a
Nice job! Note that it's the pre 1998 ITR model since it has 4x100 hubs
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Nice job! Note that it's the pre 1998 ITR model since it has 4x100 hubs
Nice job! Note that it's the pre 1998 ITR model since it has 4x100 hubs
i swear that the pre '98 ITR hubs were 4x114?? someone correct me if im wrong.
i swear that the pre '98 ITR hubs were 4x114?? someone correct me if im wrong.
Yes ONLY 96's were 4 lug 4X100. And we didn't get 96 R's here....
Hope that clears it up....
Hope that clears it up....
i'm still confusedededed.
what's with the ITR suspension? why would bolt something from an integra to a CRX chassis, especially since the integra has a different suspension geometry compared to the CRX?
what's with the ITR suspension? why would bolt something from an integra to a CRX chassis, especially since the integra has a different suspension geometry compared to the CRX?
I never really understood it too but it's an improvement over stock HF/DX for sure since they get the rear disc assembley and larger rotors up front.
Most of the changes in the model are suspension stiffness in the dampers and bushings.
Changes R-models ('98)
Front
24mm swaybar
damper inbound (+115%) /rebound (70%) firmer
5 times stiffer bushings
suspension lowered 15mm
Rear
22mm swaybar (used to be 15mm)
damper inbound (+66%) /rebound (70%) firmer (progressive instead of linear)
5 times stiffer bushings
thicker LCA mount
bearings are wider 19,2mm->29,2mm , 30% stiffer for better camber/stiffness
Rims:
PCD 5x114.3
Offset 45->50mm
Question: can you make a picture of mounting of the front reaction rods?
Most of the changes in the model are suspension stiffness in the dampers and bushings.
Changes R-models ('98)
Front
24mm swaybar
damper inbound (+115%) /rebound (70%) firmer
5 times stiffer bushings
suspension lowered 15mm
Rear
22mm swaybar (used to be 15mm)
damper inbound (+66%) /rebound (70%) firmer (progressive instead of linear)
5 times stiffer bushings
thicker LCA mount
bearings are wider 19,2mm->29,2mm , 30% stiffer for better camber/stiffness
Rims:
PCD 5x114.3
Offset 45->50mm
Question: can you make a picture of mounting of the front reaction rods?
the lug pattern is a 4x114.3.. otherwise, the 4 lug type R wheels would be on the market a heck of a lot more..
and please tell me that hatch sees the race track.. and not a drag strip.. please please please..
and please tell me that hatch sees the race track.. and not a drag strip.. please please please..
Thanks for all the positive feedback, Jeromy will be happy! Yes type R's came in four lug. the 96 models! they are the wider four like prelude and accord. The camber is perfect now, with no camber kit installed! They are TWM's and i'd guess he's making at least 180 HP to the wheels through the LSD. His car is mostly just drag because of the lack of autocross scene here in reno but porsche just sponsored a 3mile roadcourse for them to test cars at but it will be open every weekend to the public and trust me, we'll be there!!!
I used to think about an R sus. swap, but then I started thinking, "why?" I mean, what is the MAJOR advantage of this swap, as opposed to using quality aftermarket parts? Maybe someone can shed some light?
James
James
To me it seems both econimcally and performance-wise you'd be better off with something like a set of AGX's, GC coils, and you would probably still have enough cash left over for a decent strut brace or two and a set of poly bushings. I'm not knocking the swap by any means, but i'm on a tight budget and i think better results could be had for an equal or lesser amount.
James
James
hold on....so this means i couls have put my gsr dics on my ef...damn...and i sold them...looks like i have to get another set!
To me it seems both econimcally and performance-wise you'd be better off with something like a set of AGX's, GC coils, and you would probably still have enough cash left over for a decent strut brace or two and a set of poly bushings. I'm not knocking the swap by any means, but i'm on a tight budget and i think better results could be had for an equal or lesser amount.
I just don't get your statement, the brakes change, not the springs and struts!!!!
Find me a set of economical and performance minded disc brake conversion for the rear alone for under 900 and i'll take 6 of em
First of all, have you ever been in a car with ground controls?? worst ride ever, trust me, i've installed and driven over 7 brands of springs/coils, they were the bounciest!! anyways.
You use your stock struts and spring or in his case Skunk 2 coils with adjustable gas struts so i'm not sure why you're refering to a cheaper alternative on the springs? Not trying to be confrontational at all but you are obviously overlooking the true performance aspect of the setup.
To start, i'll tell you that he is probably on more of a budget than anybody I know, he makes 7$ an hour and spent less than $900(thanks to a fellow honda-techer
) and for that 900 he got nearly 1.5" bigger front disc brakes,
rear disc brakes (that weighed about 10lbs lighter each than the drums), and 15" wheels that weigh under 17lbs each with 3/4 tread 195/55/r15's on them!!! If you don't see that as a good deal than mayber you're better off with your GC coilovers and AGX's. If you look at the pictures of the motor alone you should see that he has built the car from the ground up with performance/weight in mind(notice the TWM's and the LEXAN
)
plus the fact that it looks damn nice and Is the only one i've seen with that suspension as of today!!!
[Modified by HavokRacing, 1:38 AM 12/23/2002]
I just don't get your statement, the brakes change, not the springs and struts!!!!
Find me a set of economical and performance minded disc brake conversion for the rear alone for under 900 and i'll take 6 of em
First of all, have you ever been in a car with ground controls?? worst ride ever, trust me, i've installed and driven over 7 brands of springs/coils, they were the bounciest!! anyways.
You use your stock struts and spring or in his case Skunk 2 coils with adjustable gas struts so i'm not sure why you're refering to a cheaper alternative on the springs? Not trying to be confrontational at all but you are obviously overlooking the true performance aspect of the setup.
To start, i'll tell you that he is probably on more of a budget than anybody I know, he makes 7$ an hour and spent less than $900(thanks to a fellow honda-techer
) and for that 900 he got nearly 1.5" bigger front disc brakes,rear disc brakes (that weighed about 10lbs lighter each than the drums), and 15" wheels that weigh under 17lbs each with 3/4 tread 195/55/r15's on them!!! If you don't see that as a good deal than mayber you're better off with your GC coilovers and AGX's. If you look at the pictures of the motor alone you should see that he has built the car from the ground up with performance/weight in mind(notice the TWM's and the LEXAN
)plus the fact that it looks damn nice and Is the only one i've seen with that suspension as of today!!!
[Modified by HavokRacing, 1:38 AM 12/23/2002]
This has been covered before:
Euro Integra : 4x100
Euro Integra R : 5x114,3
taken from the workshopmanual
HavokRacing can you post a picture of the mounting of the reaction rod!
Euro Integra : 4x100
Euro Integra R : 5x114,3
taken from the workshopmanual
HavokRacing can you post a picture of the mounting of the reaction rod!
Euro Integra : 4x100
Euro Integra R : 5x114,3
taken from the workshopmanual
okay, and what about the 4x114.3 which is what his setup involves!!
i guarentee it's not 4x100. look at the side by side spindle pics, the one on the left has bigger bolt spacing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i'll try to get a picture of that tommorrow, you're talking about the front radius rods right???
Euro Integra R : 5x114,3
taken from the workshopmanual
okay, and what about the 4x114.3 which is what his setup involves!!
i guarentee it's not 4x100. look at the side by side spindle pics, the one on the left has bigger bolt spacing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i'll try to get a picture of that tommorrow, you're talking about the front radius rods right???




