i bought the Greddy Kit like suggested, but dont have the intercooler yet, so i wont be installing it anytime soon, can anyone tell me some instances of your dyno results of horsepower gotten form the kit, and list what other performance parts done to your car.

Thanxs,

Jessica

 

wheres belleview huh? im in miami. are you really a chic? ill can show you wuz up wit da turbo's baby....

 

you know you dont need an intercooler to run the stock boost level right?

 

Hey Jessica .. I have a 2000 Civic Si with the Greddy Turbo kit. The only "upgrades" are a walbro intank fuel pump 255lph and NGK 1 step colder spark plugs. My exhaust is still stock and so is the cat. Im at 5psi and on the blue box. I got 176 HP and 139.5 TQ .. here are the dyno #'s with the Type 31 Intercooler. Hope this helps

P.S. Once I open the exhaust and hondata goes in I'll be all set, probably in a month or so. I also have a Type S BOV, it wasn't welded yet in that picture.

- Fred










[Modified by FredoSP, 11:37 PM 12/19/2002]

 

are the greddy kits only 5 psi? i thought they were more, and whats so bad about the blue box?

 

Stock boost = 5psi, get a boost controller.
Blue Box = untunable piggy back fuel computer, runs rich (look at the dyno A/F), and gives bogus CEL's.

Search for this topic, its been covered a lot.
What are you goals, cause they could lead to finding what kit is right for you, I.E. Drag, GReddy, FMAX, REV HARD, or custom setup.

 

what the... i bet you get alll the ladies huh?

 

sorry my honda men, but im taken, by my baby and his eclipse! LOL but he doesnt really know anything about honda, i think i know more than he does!!! LOL
Hey can you run more boost than 5 psi on the greddy kit? i wouldnt mind running 5psi on the street but i kinda wanna run more than that at the track, besides a boost controller what else would i need?


Jessica

 

In my GSR with stock block, greddy kit with no intercooler and a blue box. with a 2.5 inch exhaust made 190 wheel horspower at 7.8psi.

 

I dyno'd 217.7whp / 183wtq @10psi on my GReddy kit in my '98 Civic EX, but this was with Hondata 2B.

 

yea, you can run more that 5psi with the greddy kit. I had it on my sohc, but we ran 8psi, no boost controller, just messed with the wastegate and ran a bigger fuel pump. The motor held strong and after doing my swap i even gave the motor to a guy on here and he's told me the motor is still working fine.

 

250whp at 9lbs...GSR with Greddy 18g kit, Greddy FMIC, Hondata s200 with boost, JG intake mani, HKS ss bov, MSD ignition, bigger fuel pump, 450 injectors, Skunk 2 cam gears (stock setting), 3" exhaust/muffler (no cat), Greddy tt & profec B boost controller.

 

ATTN: FredoSP...No disrespect but doesn't your SI motor make 160 H.P. in stock
form? Your ride looks awesome but you didn't get much bang for your buck there
did you. Let me know if I am off base here becuase Im really curious.

 

OKay .. you might been confused .. Stock Civic Si makes 160 Fly wheel HP and 111 TQ .. okay now knowing that, and if you multiply a 15-18% drive train loss, then your actually putting down 136 HP to the ground or "tires". Now on a dyno, this is the number that they are giving you, 175 HP to the ground. So if we do 15% (.15) of 205 Fly Wheel HP that roughly gets to that 175 HP on the dyno.

Please keep in mind its with the Greddy Blue Box, it sucks, its rich, its untunable and it throws CEL's. My car has stock 2" exhaust, and cat. If I opened up the exhaust without even touching the boost level I could make MUCH higher #'s.

Hondata 2B is going in once my tuner comes back from Importbuilders in CA.
So please look at my signature when you see my Dyno's cause it tends to explain a lot. Most people who make a lot more power than me, have more boost and a free flowing exhaust. Alos it helps of your state doesn't do emmissions tetsing, hello test pipe!!

Hope this informs you of "Why" my #'s are what they are.

[Edit] I also got my kit and IC for wholesale, I got a lot of bang


[Modified by FredoSP, 3:53 AM 12/22/2002]

 

word up man! i hate it when people look at hp numbers and assume that's all u can put down. i am not disappointed at my numbers because i am restricted just like FredoSP (stock exhaust, greddy blue box).

So before u bash, learn how to read and understand people's set ups.

 

Thanks man .. .I see you have an Apexi Turbo timer, how hard was it to install, cause I have to get one of those bad boys. Im assuming you have a boost controller also, Prof B?

BTW, nice dyno, your so gad damm rich its off the scale!! Mine is the same way too .. hondata here i come!!

 

i had my gauge and the apexi turbo timer installed by my friend, so i couldnt tell u if it was easy or hard, it took him like 30 minutes to put in both, i just sat and watched him..
no i dont have a boost controller (yet) im planning on the profec-e01? it looks SICK, only like 200 more than the profec b.. hmm thats about it for now..
greddy =

im going for 3' exhaust and egt guage next!
gona find a custom 3' dp and get some 3' piping to a turbo apexi N1 muffler


[Modified by BoostinGSR, 3:50 AM 12/22/2002]

 

FredoSP Thanks for that great explaination...actually I allready knew that there is a power loss associated with the drive train but had a long day at the office and my brain is a little low on juice...you da man.
However know it all's like BoostinGSR can suck on it all day long. I thought that I had asked a reasonable question with no disrespect, even compliments on your sweet looking ride. Ive seen this kinda hostility on this board time and time again. BoostinGSR probably has a Napoleon complex or something. I figure the "Boost" in BoostinGSR is his Boost chair in the drivers seat.
Thanks as always guys for your patience and understanding for someone trying to learn a few things.

 

RangerDan: i do not understand where u were trying to get at by asking people questions like "you didn't get much bang for your buck there
did you"

it makes us greddy turbo owners feel pretty offended. even if you didnt actually mean for harsh words, in my head it still translates into something not positive.

i love cars and i know you do to, and i dont think making fun of people gets us anywhere

-eric




[Modified by BoostinGSR, 12:05 PM 12/22/2002]

 

Allright BoostinGSR...perhaps I jumped the gun with you, I myself am about 2-3 weeks away from installing a Greddy turbo kit on my sohc. Been doing a LOT of searching for answers to my questions becuase of the resistance of people on this board to help. The thing about searching is new products come out all the time and technology being the way it is, is ever changing. So that makes 75% of searches useless. So to make a long story short I took out some frustation on you my fine turboed brother...no harm no foul. BTW nice ride. Anyways a guy can get lost in the...which type of gauges should I buy...boost controller...exhaust...bovs...blue box...injectors...and so on.
Peace out

 

Can you alleviate the richness caused by the blue box, by bumping the pressure to 7 or 8? I live in cali, so greddy is the only legal option for me

Is it better to just get an engine management system first?

 

RangerDan: Its cool, don't worry about it. Now you said you are going to install this on a SOHC? So Im assuming you got the TD04-15G turbo?

Also here is a site you might want to take a look at, just incase you want some pointers etc. http://www.turbocivic.net/instructions.htm We are Here to help too!

Hmmm .. Personally I wouldn't. I know what you mean, "If im so rich I'll just bump the boost and then I'll lean it out". Here goes, GReddy made there Piggy Back Fuel computer to run rich (too much fuel) on purpose, WHY? Its safer, plain and simple. Though there are trade off's. Running rich over time will cause you to burn out o2 sensors, and they aren't cheap, poor gas milage and a reduction in power - Running rich WILL NOT give you the best power. A perfect Air to Fuel Ratio is 14.7, seeing from my dyno It was dipping around 10's and 11's, this is not good. Honda-tech member "DeepSi" has the same setup as me, but with Hondata, I know hes making atleast 10 more whp, so simply leaning out the A/F you will gain power. I'm going to give him a PM to see if he has anything to add to this.

Being in CA you are limited to the CARB crap (no BOV), see my Avatar, the GReddy CARB Sticker Anyways I know people from this board that Have Drag 3, FMAX, Custom kits and modified Greddy kits and all that, but when it comes time to smog, they pay people off, or just take off all there stuff. It sucks, but thats life. Also you don't have 93 or 94 Octane gas, that sucks. Given the high compression of our motors, you'll want to have 91 as a minimum and not to mention 1 step colder plugs. This all helps to prevent detonation and pre-ignition, which are the downfalls to any engine.

Hope this answers your question/s.

- Fred

 

gsrhunny: Can you post your dyno sheet? I've got a similar setup and I'd like to see the torque curve you got. Thanks.

 

Here are the results of my Greddy Dyno.
Same setup as FredoSP, except i have Hondata/440ccs instead of Blue Box/310ccs.
Greddy @ 5psi
187 hp and 136 tq.
This christmas break i will install my AVC-R and up the boost and get it retuned. But first i have to get my AVC-R from UPS
I need to free up my exhaust flow, and i will get better numbers. test pipe