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CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2?

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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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Default CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2?

Hi,

which one of those should I take? Which is the best for the price? Got anyone dynos?
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 06:31 AM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (Drag-On)

I have heard stories first-hand about peoples Crowers cracking and absolutely destroying their head. It is possible they have began to use a different material to build their cams, fixing the problem....For the most gains compared to price, I would still say to get the Crower Stage2's.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 07:25 AM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (b16a ferio)

If you talk to Brian Crower (think thats his name) about his cams snapping he has said that they did have a bad batch out there for a while. Also any damage that was done from those cams, crower rembursed them for all of the damage. All of those cams were recalled and taken off the market a while ago. Now he use a different core to make his cams now that will not break according to him
There was a post about them like a year ago on here and someone talked directly to Mr. Crower himself.

So if you are considering not getting crower cams because of them breaking they wont break or damage your head
I know from first hand expereince that the crower 403 cams pulled better times on the q/t mile than the skunk2 stage 2 cams

-Brian
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 07:44 AM
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i would go itr
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (Drag-On)

Here's another thread about broken cams if you haven't read it already.

hates when people slander Crower, they make good stuff.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=359458

I was running the Crower 63402's before I went the FI route. You do need to upgrade the valvetrain, and get your motor tuned somehow when running these cams.

Everything else being equal, I think they will outperform CTR cams, they (63402's) have more lift and duration.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (xThexHeadx)

in my b16a3 i put down 170whp in a fairly tuned motor. this is on a bone stock bottom end, dented jdm dc 4-1, stock airbox, 2 1/2" exhaust, skunk2 program, and v-afc. there was definitely more tuning that could have been done, but we ran out of time to play w/ the cam gears more...i mostly tuned it for mid-range, but the power peaked at 9000rpm
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 11:16 PM
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how high can they go?

i mean how many rpm´s they go (sorry, don´t know how to write it else)
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 02:15 PM
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a set of crower cams broke on us last night i give them a
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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After witnessing a friends ordeal with crower first hand, I wouldn`t buy **** from them.

RYan
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (vtecvoodoo)

After witnessing a friends ordeal with crower first hand, I wouldn`t buy **** from them.

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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 04:39 PM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (Drag-On)

Why hasn't anyone said CTR cams yet....oh yeah cause the guy needs to let people know what he plans to do with his motor.
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 11:29 PM
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the guy wants to have cheap cams for a daily driver / weekend auto X - N/A setup
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Old Dec 31, 2002 | 04:41 AM
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Default Re: CTR/ITR vs. Crower Stage 2? (Drag-On)

well i think that it is bad inst. !! not crower or what ever that made a mistake !!
see peeps tellin the same about snunk2/jun/ and toda !? = some run fine some dont = seem 2 me like bed inst. !!
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