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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:38 PM
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how are the 88-89 so much lighter than the 90-91 is almost 200 lbs lighter,, thats crazy they look almost the same, anyone know how?
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:44 PM
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I'd like to know myself...
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (hondaspeed85)

The doors of the 90-91 are reinforced because of their door mounted seatbelts because I guess the door has to take the stress or something. I guess they came with more luxury features to.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:55 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (FourthGenHatch)

and the DX has no sunroof either...
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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drums in the rear

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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (VTeC4TheChildren)

it's mainly the door mounted seatbelts. other small items contribute, but the seatbelts are the majority of the added weight.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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The seatbelts in the doors started in 89, 88 was the year where they were on the inside....I believe the 88 crx si weighs around 2014lbs stock....I loved my 88 si cause it was so light
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (VTeC4TheChildren)

All Hatchbacks had rear drums, none came with discs.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 07:35 PM
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I know the seatbelts from the 90-91 make it heavier, the door side trims are a bit fatter, the taillights have an additional reflector inside, some of them have painted bumpers, some even came with rear speakers, Si had the sunroof and better seats. This is all that I can think of.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Thats funny, then my 89 with pillar mounted seat belts must be quite rare
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Thats funny, then my 89 with pillar mounted seat belts must be quite rare
it is. i'll give you $14 for it

88-89 didnt have useless crap in them. pillar mounted belts = no big door = no big glass, less plastic dash/console ****, less tar/sound deadening. i dont have: cig lighter, clock, passenger side mirror. seatbelt light **** by the rear view. i also dont have an interrior
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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i finally figured out this seatbelt thing. here goes.

88-89 hatches had floor mounted seatbelts.
88 crx's had floor mounted seatbelts.

those should be correct.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:34 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (FourthGenHatch)

All 89 HF's came with the pillar belts like the 88's. The 89 SI and DX and all 90-91's have the door belts. This applies only to the USDM
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (Steve91)

In Canada, no CRX's came with door mounted seatbelts.

My 88 DX is so low option: no lighter, passenger side mirror, no tach, no rear wiper... nada. Options are: seats, shift ****.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:42 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (Steve91)

All HF's have a lighter front suspension as well as the engine seems to be a bit lighter than the DX and Si.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (Speed PHreak)

The seats in the 88-89 are ligher too. I compaired them once and my 89's are very light compared to the 90-91's.
And I am sure the 90-91 doors make a big differnce too. Have you ever felt the difference? It's gotta add close to 100 lbs right there.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (Steve91)

All 89 HF's came with the pillar belts like the 88's. The 89 SI and DX and all 90-91's have the door belts. This applies only to the USDM
this does not however apply to 4dr dx's at least. my 89 4dr has pillar mounted belts and NOT door mounted.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 05:14 AM
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My '89 DX dosen't have door mounted belts. Maybe its a Date of manufacture issue nore than modle year.


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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:08 AM
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more rust = more holes. they get lighter as they age.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 07:22 AM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (irtep)

i think it has something to do with the bumper supports being 2 1/5mph on the 88-89, and 5mph on the 90-91.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 04:45 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (FourthGenHatch)

All Hatchbacks had rear drums, none came with discs.
If i'm not mistaken the 91 Crx Si comes with rear disc brakes.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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All Hatchbacks had rear drums, none came with discs.

If i'm not mistaken the 91 Crx Si comes with rear disc brakes.
nope all 88-91 hatches have drums
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 04:55 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (CRX-T)

Hatches have drums...

CRX's (90-91) have discs.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (Mr. S)

88 CRX HF:
- smaller gas tank
- no rear windshield wiper/no motor for wiper
- smaller front brakes
- smaller rear brakes
- smaller front/rear bumper supports
- no rear cargo cover
- no clock
- no tilt stearing.
- pillar mounted belts.

I love my 1850lb hf. and the fact that I think it is the only one in my province because they didn't sell them in canada.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 02:50 PM
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Default Re: how are 88-89 so much lighter (jdm_crx_vtec)

To clarify a few things, as someone stated, it is the date of manufacture not necessarily the year. A friend bought an 89 si made in november with door mounted seat belts. Generally the 88's and 89's come with pillar belts.

The majority of the weight difference also as someone stated is mainly in the doors itself, I own an 88 crx si. A friend of mine owns a 91 crx si. I have to like, rock the door to close it in his car due to me being used to just flicking my wrist to close my own door. The reason for this is, as I was once told and have read on several websites, the 88's and 89's are missing a few safety features that the 90/91's came with. One being side impact beams.


ps, living in MD/DC with a lowered car that weighs less than 2100 pounds is not recommended


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