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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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I have a big problem...i was taking off one of the LCA bolts...snap...broke the head of the bolt off. I was wondering if anyone know's if the SI LCA the same as everyother model? ie. cx, dx, or crx LCA. If someone could help out.

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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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The only difference is the Si ones have a hole for the rear anti-sway bar.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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88 has a funky looking one. EX's have the mounting hole slot, just no tapped hole. If that makes sense.
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Old Dec 13, 2002 | 08:09 PM
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cool...thanks guys...Looks like i need a SI one. I've seen that you could use a 90-93 integra LCA to replace the civic one??? I can only get away with this if the car is not lowered...is this true?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 03:35 AM
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the 90-93 integra ones are longer than the 88-91 si. 99% sure.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 07:40 AM
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the 90-93 integra ones are longer than the 88-91 si. 99% sure.
Correct, but they will work fine in Civics also.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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the 90-93 integra ones are longer than the 88-91 si. 99% sure.

Correct, but they will work fine in Civics also.
Yeah if you like camber.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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Yeah if you like camber.
The difference in camber isnt even noticeable by eye. They are slightly longer, were not talking inches here.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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Yeah if you like camber.

The difference in camber isnt even noticeable by eye. They are slightly longer, were not talking inches here.

Sorry, but camber to the eye is a **** poor way of measuring. They are longer that civics, dont use them. They are longer, period.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 03:07 PM
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I see no problem using them. What problems does them being shorter cause? My friends running them in his car with no noticeable affects in handling, steering or ride. Why do you suggest not use them?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 03:11 PM
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Hell, use them as long as the eyeball says they look fine. But they are longer than the civics. Even 1/16" makes a difference. Why do you think we put washers on the upper arm? To balance out the camber. How thick is a washer?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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so what are you saying, dont use them because itll affect your camber? Do you own lowering springs? ever know anyone who did without a camber kit? Are you saying i shouldnt use lowering springs because itll affect my camber. I dont understand your reasoning of why they shouldnt be used.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 03:35 PM
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What are lowering springs? Never heard of them before.

Okay, lets say you lower your car. You get camber. If you like the squashed look, dont do anything after that. You by a front camber kit to fix the camber on the front. You throw in two, maybe three washers on the rear upper caontrol arm to balance out the camber that you just added, by your lowereing springs. Now, you throw on a set of longer LCA's, which in turn moves the bottom of your tire out even more, resulting in more camber. Is it that hard to understand?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 03:40 PM
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Im at a friends house so im using his SN.

So other than the fact that you dont like camber and wouldnt dare want that squashed look as you put it, theres no reason why they cant be used. Now say joe blow comes alomg and doesnt care about camber hell put them in and drive wiht his camber and not care. Yes they are longer but other than affecting the camber theyre fine to use. that answers the posters question.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 04:13 PM
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Whatever. Put them on, wear out your tires faster, do whatever you want. Yes, they will botl up just fine. Hell, lots of things can bolt up just fine, but you dont use it because the effects that can happen. Using them puts you in the class of people who dont own a torque wrench.
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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What are lowering springs? Never heard of them before.

Okay, lets say you lower your car. You get camber. If you like the squashed look, dont do anything after that. You by a front camber kit to fix the camber on the front. You throw in two, maybe three washers on the rear upper caontrol arm to balance out the camber that you just added, by your lowereing springs. Now, you throw on a set of longer LCA's, which in turn moves the bottom of your tire out even more, resulting in more camber. Is it that hard to understand?
you always have camber. its a matter of being positive, negative or 0. teg lca's used as a pair pose no problem what so ever with a stock suspension. they make the wheels stick out a tad more. if the car is lowered, you would have a camber correct kit in front for the front and a camber correct kit in the rear for the rear.
why use washers when you can do it the right way?
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 11:37 PM
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Whatever. Put them on, wear out your tires faster, do whatever you want. Yes, they will botl up just fine. Hell, lots of things can bolt up just fine, but you dont use it because the effects that can happen. Using them puts you in the class of people who dont own a torque wrench.
You have no basis on your theories and have explained nothing. You say they cause camber, but its not to the point that theyll wear your tires out so much faster than say a 2" lowering spring. Do you have any experience with these actually on a car? It seems no because all you keep saying over and over is "they cause camber". Although you believe your tires are going to wear out at an abnormal rate due to these lca's, its false and you truly have no idea what you are talking about.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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Up to -0.75 degree of camber won't wear out the tires that fast.. I've done 10K miles on the Toyo's T1-s (known for fast wear) and the rear is fine. Up front is a different story.. -2.5 degrees of camber have ruined the surface and I'm experiencing handling problems right now.. time for new ones

Rear camber can be adjusted by spacers easily so there's really no need for a camber correction kit. I believe there's been a thread on how to adjust the rear camber with spacers. Up front I would mount a camber correction kit or be prepared to suffer on tires..

Extreme camber is very good for handling but gives a poor straight-out stabillity
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 06:22 AM
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I have a big problem...i was taking off one of the LCA bolts...snap...broke the head of the bolt off.
i had one more thought.... you can do a few things.

1. easiest method, more $$$. get the bushing pressed out and a new one pressed it. now would be a good time to buy an ES master kit and replace all the LCA bushings with the ES ones...

2. semi-easy, if it works. $ cost. try to hammer out the broken bolt (if the LCA is off the car). then go buy a new bolt.

3. hardest, $ cost. drill out the bolt and buy as new one.


i had the shock bolt on my LCA freeze up yesterday. i ended up cutting the bolt in 2 spots to remove the shock from the LCA. then i had to cut the captive bolt off the shock. i replaced the bolt and added a nut.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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Yep, I was dumb and used them. But hell, I am retarded and dont know what the hell I am talking about.
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Old Dec 15, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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The Teg lower control arm is the same overall length as the Civic one. The difference is in the shock mounting. The mounting point on the Teg arm is further out on the arm than the Civic. This is the reason that you might get rubbing with the Teg arm, as the shock will be closer to the wheel/tire.
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