Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small)

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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 10:44 PM
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Default Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small)

i cannot install my earl fittings onto my turbo because the center section on my turbo is smaller than the norm and i cannot rotate the fittings to screw them in. what can I do? im thinking the only to do is to take(same the compressor side) off... im kind of afraid to do so. i dont want to mess anything up. ive never taken a turbo apart before .
will it be that bad/hard to do so?
also,should I just screw them in , or should i add something , like loc tyte ?


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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 10:45 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

if you loosen the housings up is there any position that you can orient them to let you turn the fittings?
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Old Dec 7, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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You can get another fitting like this
then screw in a straight npt to AN adapter once you have it positioned where you want it.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:35 AM
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Autozone carries those fittings for like 1.00$

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 06:49 AM
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I took apart my turbo once. It is not hard, just pull it straight out from the housing.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 12:04 PM
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ok, so i just took apart the turbo now..
actually is wastn to ahrd.. i was just afraid of messing things up.
it was quite fast to do so.
so.
i unbolted the comp housing and immediatly see that the plate(comp side) is in the way still . also the exh was in the way. so i unbolt the exh housing.
so now ive got just the center section , blades, and "backing plate" (where the comp blade "sits").
so I take my :
90 degree -4 an to 1/4 npt adapter and try to screw it in. this one wont even grip .. it wont go into the thread..it fits but its like the little nipple part that sticks out from it is hitting the the nipple on the inside of the hole.
i try again and push harder but no luck.
so i move on to the water fittings.
2x 90 degree -6 an flare x 3/8 npt.
i try to screw it in and it catches but gets tight real quick(only 1/4 of a full turn..."flare"). so i tighten it somemore but i hit the backing plate. no way the fitting is far enough in the hole to be secured properly. so i play arround somemore and theres nothing i can really do...
what the heck? am i going to have to fully take this thing apart to get these fittings on and do I have the right oil feed fitting( -4 to 1/4 npt) ..
turbo is gt30.

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

not much room i think i may have to buy some new fittings(NON 90 degree ones)

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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 04:27 PM
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looks like the 90 deg -4 an to 1/4 npt fitting does NOT fit. as far as I know the AN side does not go into the turbo. the npt side does. so that means it wont fit..neither will my 90 deg -6 an to 3/8 npt. its not just that they are 90 deg and i have no room to turn them but the npt does not match the turbo's holes... they are diff... i dont think im that stupid(unless the an side does go into the turbo? because if i do that then it is kinda close but it still doesnt seem to fit)
ack this is kind of frustrating.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:05 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

anyone?
or is this just an internal mono log that im writing down?


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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

Are the 1/4" and the 3/8" NPT fittings too big or too small? I wonder what size they could be on the turbo if those don't fit?
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:25 PM
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they both are too big.
i tried the 1/4 npt in one of the water holes(Supposed to be 3/8) and that size seemed better suited(although i couldnt really get it in there..damn i need straight fittings)
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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3/16 would be the next size down from 1/4.
5/16 would be the next down from 3/8.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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it is actually a flare thread on the center section. so you would need a flare to an
HTH
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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I always thought the oil fittings were only 1/8" NPT... try that.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:31 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

are you sure the inlet is even threaded? becuase mine is not (Garret T3/T04e), I need to get an oil inlet flange for it to work.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (Farnsrocket)

no no..not that one.. thats the return(unless im mixing themup)
the one where you need a flange is fine..
its the OTHER 3(2 water) that dont work with what i got and dont seem to use the normal t3/t4 fittings.

"it is actually a flare thread on the center section. so you would need a flare to an
HTH
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huh????


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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

i just got an email address (of someone who knows for sure)from a local buddy who has the same turbo.. so i shall know for sure(i hope) soon!
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (SiRkid)

both mine were not threaded, the larger one, i need a flange for both(oil inlet and oulet), i don't know anything about the water cooled type.
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (CzanSOHC)

well if you look at the pics up top.. the turbo on the right(like mine)..
the hole on the right is the oil inlet(left of that is water in or out... then below that is the oil return which needs a flange)
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:00 PM
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"it is actually a flare thread on the center section. so you would need a flare to an
HTH
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huh????
[Modified by SiRkid, 5:40 AM 12/9/2002]
the oil inlet is a flare fitting, and you are wanting to use an -AN fitting for your supply line, so you would need a flare to -AN fitting. here is a link to the earls page and the fitting that might suit you best is a 45* pn#:9823_ _ on the top right od the page: http://www.earls.co.uk/main/36-37.html
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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ah , yess, i know..
I HAVE
part number
9822_ _ ( 44) ..scroll down a bit youll see.
its the 90 degree one..
-4 an to 1/4 npt..i got that BUT
the 1/4 DOES NOT FIT..its too BIG..(surprisingly) ..also the 90 degree part suck too.(cause i have no room to turn the fitting all the way around )
i think i need 1/8 and a 45 deg or straight fitting


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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Cant install earl fittings on to turbo(center section small) (CHEAPTURBOdotCOM)

whoops, double post.



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