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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Default Going ALL Motor again, opinions please...

Well our second motor is cooked, we are gonna have IB (Import Builders)
build us a new motor, well longblock. I was thinking of going to the darkside but I REALLY want All motor even though boostin usually leads to higher HP numbers depending on mods. This engine is going into a ITR.
Anywas this is the setup I was thinking of, let me know what you think.
Haven't made my mind up on the block yet, but definetly the head
-B16A Head 3 angle P&P
-Toda Spec B Cams
-Toda Cam Gears
-Toda Valve Springs with Portflow Titanium Retainers
-Spoon Sports 4-2-1 Header or Toda 4-2-1
-Spoon Sports N1 Exhaust
-ITR Throttle Body & Intake Manifold

For the Block I don't know which one to go with, I was thinking of the 1.8L GSR package through IB with a 12.?:1 compression....
Let me know your opinions or setups that you a re running, we want to make at least 205+ WHP with this motor..
Also add in a Hondata system or Apexi V-AFC, J's Racing Intake.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Default Re: Going ALL Motor again, opinions please... (importadrenelin)

Well our second motor is cooked, we are gonna have IB (Import Builders)
build us a new motor, well longblock. I was thinking of going to the darkside but I REALLY want All motor even though boostin usually leads to higher HP numbers depending on mods. This engine is going into a ITR.
Anywas this is the setup I was thinking of, let me know what you think.
Haven't made my mind up on the block yet, but definetly the head
-B16A Head 3 angle P&P
-Toda Spec B Cams
-Toda Cam Gears
-Toda Valve Springs with Portflow Titanium Retainers
-Spoon Sports 4-2-1 Header or Toda 4-2-1
-Spoon Sports N1 Exhaust
-ITR Throttle Body & Intake Manifold

For the Block I don't know which one to go with, I was thinking of the 1.8L GSR package through IB with a 12.?:1 compression....
Let me know your opinions or setups that you a re running, we want to make at least 205+ WHP with this motor..
Also add in a Hondata system or Apexi V-AFC, J's Racing Intake.

AEM intake...if you are dragging the car which sounds like you are, or itb's .........hondata ..12.5C/R would be nice maybe a little higher if you throw in a mugen head gasket...apexi v-afc if you want to monitor a couple of things, you might want to get bigger injectors, maybe 310cc..i would..and a very good tuner, you'll be set
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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WEll the car isn't being built for the 1/4 actually the road course, brakes and suspension are being done as well.
I would do ITB's but I want the car to still be very streetable...
I just want to be able to build an All Motor R that is reliable but still puts down over 200+ HP.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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my friend has 202 whp with jun kit....valve etc...and ecu...aem, rc injectors, but the head was milled i think but still got over 200 whp out of it

PS...you can street it with itbs......just no hurricanes and **** like that


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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:20 PM
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Go 2 liter or go home
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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i would get their built 2.0 liter block. with the mods you mentioned, you should easily hit 200whp with some injectors.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Go 2 liter or go home
yep don't even bother......
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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im 2 litre.. and far from homw
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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Go 2 liter or go home
seriously!! You will hit 205+ easily with 2l


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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:56 PM
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Go 2 liter or go home
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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damn so 2.0L i guess.... TQ numbers are obviously better as well..
I punched some numbers and could possibly get HELLA expensive...
Maybe it is time to go boost..... Drag 3 Turbo Kit for the ITR engine we can get for a very good price?/ opions
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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I think you should consider about JUN 3 setup. I have seen better results with higher CR or 2.0L (resleeved 84mm) engines.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:09 PM
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I think you should consider about JUN 3 setup. I have seen better results with higher CR or 2.0L (resleeved 84mm) engines.
toda would be better for auto-x. jun for drag.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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if they're building you a block, most definately do a 2.0, you'll be happy every time you drive.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:03 PM
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hey importadrenelin, i am in calgary and having a set of toda spec b cams for sale!!! let me know. i am running toda cams as well!!!
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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Hey Vince,
It is me Jay, I bought the Azect lip off you last year..
Anyways I may go Turbo depending on what kind of engine I can get built.
Thanks for the offer though
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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84.5mm
Victor X mani
310's
JUN 3's
7lb fly
Ericks Racing street/race header 4-1

C1 block....11.5-12.5 comp.....lightweight rods (cunningham Ti etc)...AEM EMS...

It really all depends on your budget.....when you have a realistic budget you can narrow it down.....if your on the fence about ALL MOTOR and turbo then maybe you should reconsider what exactly your trying to do...
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 09:34 PM
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damn so 2.0L i guess.... TQ numbers are obviously better as well..
I punched some numbers and could possibly get HELLA expensive...
Maybe it is time to go boost..... Drag 3 Turbo Kit for the ITR engine we can get for a very good price?/ opions
Go custom, the amount of money you spend for the N/A motor setup, you could have a reliable road race ready turbo engine.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 06:00 AM
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Go 2 liter or go home
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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Go 2 liter or go home

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