I was curious to see if any one has had experience with ether system.

I was looking for Brembo Gold's but I could not find a place to buy them, I did though find the Grand Turismo System for $2395.
Gran Turismo Brake Systems

The next performance level, Gran Turismo, is comprised of both 1 or 2-piece vented rotors that are 12 to 14 inch cross-drilled and/or slotted. In the 2-piece system, billet aluminum hats are application specific and have been individually machined to engineering specifications. The marriage of these pieces create a "floating disc" which reduces heat related stress and improves brake performance and pedal feel. The Gran Turismo system may be available with your choice of black, red or silver calipers

Can anyone give me some good information on the comparison of these two systems?
I know that the Mugen is 2 piston and the Brembo GT's are 4.

 

which mugen kit? the S2000 calipers? I thought those were still 1 piston....

 

Mugen is just S2k calipers. Both are mucho buckaroos for braking that could probably be had by doing the NSX calipers and Legend GS rotors with good pads. Just trying to save you some money.

 

With my mod's i don't want to save money with a different set up. What I mean is if there is a very good product out there for my car and it is expensive I don't care as long as it works. I don't want to put cheap parts on my car, not to say that NSX calipers and Legend rotors are. I would like a to save money, though, on a certain product that I decide to purchase (i.e. Best price).

What I want to know is if there is a significant difference between the two systems And if any knows where I can get Brembo Golds and for what price.

 

have you looked at stoptechs kits?

 

I think that I have a friend with the Brembo big brake kit that is looking to sell it considering he no longer owns a Type-R...requires 17's, but some 16's will fit.

 

yoshi has those

i have heard very good things about those

remember that 90% of the time, if you have track pads and sticky track tires with stock brakes, it will most likely out perform daily driven pads with sticky street tires

i vote for light weight wheels, kumho v700 or yoko A032R 15" light wheels with cobalt gt-r spec compounds.

but, if you have lightweight wheels, great pads, sticky *** tires, and 13" rotors with 4 piston calipers. that will of course kick some ***

iggy, list what your goals you have, and what you are unhappy about the itr brake setup!

 

The reason I don't want a Stoptech kit like the one that Yoshi is using is because it would require 17 inch rims, I don't want to go over 16.

There is nothing wrong with, or nothing I dislike about the Stock set up. What I am trying to do is plann out my mods so that I have a well balanced reliable car. I would like to use Mugen but I don't want to go with the wrong choice with brakes because they could potentially save my life.
My next mod is a Mugen S1 seat and harness. Then I want to do some instructional track driving. But for the long run, Brakes would be next, and with that I would then upgrade rims and tires. My last mod would concern suspention, because the stock system has a lot of potential and when upgrade that I am spending big bucks.

 

IF you dont care about the bling brake systems such as mugen and brembo and just want a well balanced car, why dont you try some DOT 4 high performance fluid and some good street/track pads. The stock ITR braking with these upgraded items is great. If you want that bling, why not get a set of Spoon calipers with the fluid and upgraded pads?

 

I think I saw one (or two) of those brembo "gold" kits at Inline-Pro a week or two ago.
Very nice 13" (the Brembo kits), but I decided to go with some Smurf calipers under the stock wheels.

 

I don't want the spoon calipers because they come with just the calipers, these that i have described are systems. They include pads, rotors, lines and calipers. I would prefer not to mix and match parts, with a system I have a balanced system because the parts were made to work together. The benifit though of the Spoons is they can use stock size pads.

 

Sorry... no experience here.

Question:
What is wrong with your stock brakes?
:ducks and runs:

 

When I was into my mod everything addiction I kept trying to justify modding the brakes, but other than the pads, fluid, and lines I couldn't justify the cost for the larger calipers and rotors, especially considering I wouldn't be able to use my stock rims for autocrossing, and drag racing, everything would have to have been 16"+.

A good set of pads and some good fluid should be fine, but some want to change it...I know that I was looking at it...still haven't found a way to justify it yet.

Austin

 

Spoon. Cuz it's lighter than both of them.

post whoring to showoff the new avatar

 

Yea but the kit will be down the road so when the time comes, i will be experienced enough to make a good choice, and if I really need to make such a big upgrade. But you do have a point, right now I don't have the financial resources to justify my change.

 

There is nothing un-balanced about the Spoon calipers. They were designed specificaly around the TypeR and it's otherwise stock equipment (rotors, MC, wheels, brake pads, etc). If anything they are the most "balanced" option out there.

Other more complete kits require the use of two piece rotors, dog bone extensions for the calipers, different brake pads, and various other non OE things. Most of thse parts were not designed specificaly for the R and have simply been pulled from a bin of parts. This is not necisarily a bad thing but does sort of go against your argument against the Spoon calipers.

Buying replacement parts for these complete kits will be pricy and less streight foward. With the spoon calipers you can walk into you local dealership and buy replacement rotors and pads. Something you'll be doing alot of if you track your car.

Just something to think about...

 

Thank you for the response, this is they type of info that I need. I want to be more informed about my choices, but is not the Mugen kit designed usong OE parts and meant to fit the Type R.


[Modified by IGGY, 11:36 AM 12/3/2002]

 

Since you aren't road racing in a competitive form, keep the stock brakes and get some pads, fluids and lines. It is only around 300 bux and it will be an improvement over stock and wont bump you up classes at autox and wont make you add weight to your car if you ever do road race competitively.

You obviously dont have the disposable income to spend 2k on a braking "system" and if you aren't doing any real racing, big brake kits are just bling.

 

Just do whatever u want man..

like reading your post pisses me off..

when other people recommand u "What about stoptech?" ==== I dont like stoptech cuz. blah blah blah... and "what about spoon calipers"==== i dont like spoon calipers cuz it only comes with caliper..

spoon is made to work with stock rotor, that's why it comes with caliper ONLY..

looks like you are not "track" experienced and i dont know what other "PERFECT" parts you use for your mod but i just dont give a ****.

"i dont wanna put cheap parts on my car.. yeah.. sure.. but what other mod u have?"
"i want relieable car" for example. getting a legen rotor + nsx caliper wont make your car UNrelieable or missbalanced at all.

do what the fugg ever u wanna do man.. damn.. wasted my fugging 5 mins




[Modified by itr1244, 8:08 PM 12/3/2002]

 

With the stock seat Iggy looks like a little kid sitting in the seat, he's a person that when they turn sideways they disappear...even the Mugen and Vision/Spoon seats are to big for him.

Austin

 

hell yeah, ain't nuttin wrong with that!

 

I'm all about bling'n

yshi - who s his stoptech, but knows it's not for everyone

 

What about spoon calipers w/ spoon slotted rotors? I think Mike @ IPS has a special deal going on for christmas now!

 

P.S. - and endless pads!

 

NO offense IGGY, but drive first, mod later. No need to spend money on someting you will never use/need.