Is the myth about toda Bs true?
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (98cwitr)
...yeap, because the stock belt is not designed to withstand the higher drag from a wilder cam than stock or spec A. So the belt snaps at continuous high rpm use. Need to buy a reinforced TODA or PE timing belt.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (98cwitr)
yes and no. some do, some don't. Yack used stock belt for a long time, some broke theirs. Strangely this seems to be a north america problem as it's not prevelent elsewhere.
IMO stock belt tensioned correctly and inspected occasionally is fine, but if you want the piece of mind get the PE or Toda belts.
IMO stock belt tensioned correctly and inspected occasionally is fine, but if you want the piece of mind get the PE or Toda belts.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (Peagreenhatch)
yes they do, you need toda timing belt.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (Dave-ROR)
um yeah
my redline is at 8,400 and I take it to 8,900 all day so i might as well get to timing belt. its not a really DIY job $500 at the dealership and $150 getting the retired Honda mech. to do a side job. To me though cams, cam gears and valve springs aren't DIY either.
my redline is at 8,400 and I take it to 8,900 all day so i might as well get to timing belt. its not a really DIY job $500 at the dealership and $150 getting the retired Honda mech. to do a side job. To me though cams, cam gears and valve springs aren't DIY either.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (CART fan)
Some people have their stock belts last 1000 then they snap. I had my stock belt on for 5500 miles before switching over to my PE belt. My stock belt did not have any signs of wear and it appeared to look brand new. Although installation is a major factor, i also think that the honda timing belts are not all created equally.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (98cwitr)
um yeah
my redline is at 8,400 and I take it to 8,900 all day so i might as well get to timing belt. its not a really DIY job $500 at the dealership and $150 getting the retired Honda mech. to do a side job. To me though cams, cam gears and valve springs aren't DIY either.
my redline is at 8,400 and I take it to 8,900 all day so i might as well get to timing belt. its not a really DIY job $500 at the dealership and $150 getting the retired Honda mech. to do a side job. To me though cams, cam gears and valve springs aren't DIY either.
It is a DIY job. It's even easier then the cam gears and you might as well just do both at the same time.
edit: err meant to say cams, cam gears, etc.
on me.But I could understand the cams scaring you, but the cam gears are easy for most people, just don't use a impact gun on the bolts.. lol
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There is no problem with the Toda cams, nor any other cams that I know of. The #1 reason for a timing belt to break is because it is too tight. Tension the belt when the engine is hot as the belt will tighten a lot from cold. When cold the belt will go fairly loose. BTW the toda belt is a pink/purple color.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (Spoon1)
It's a myth, I've got about 27,000 miles on a stock belt with spec B's. Some people over estimate their technical ability and think they're qualified to install these parts, so they end up snapping their belt.
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Re: Is the myth about toda Bs true? (Dave-ROR)
um yeah
my redline is at 8,400 and I take it to 8,900 all day so i might as well get to timing belt. its not a really DIY job $500 at the dealership and $150 getting the retired Honda mech. to do a side job. To me though cams, cam gears and valve springs aren't DIY either.
your redline is 8400, so I'm assuming a stock ECU? If so, your fuel cut is 8500. The only way you are hitting 8900 is if you keep misshifting on downshifts.
my redline is at 8,400 and I take it to 8,900 all day so i might as well get to timing belt. its not a really DIY job $500 at the dealership and $150 getting the retired Honda mech. to do a side job. To me though cams, cam gears and valve springs aren't DIY either.
your redline is 8400, so I'm assuming a stock ECU? If so, your fuel cut is 8500. The only way you are hitting 8900 is if you keep misshifting on downshifts.
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Re: Timing belts (Hondata)
There is no problem with the Toda cams, nor any other cams that I know of. The #1 reason for a timing belt to break is because it is too tight. Tension the belt when the engine is hot as the belt will tighten a lot from cold. When cold the belt will go fairly loose. BTW the toda belt is a pink/purple color.
I actually run my PE belt tighter than stock - I don't want it jumping teeth at high rpms... I also don't run a cut valve cover except to tune.
Some people break belts, and some don't. Most of us chalk it up to install error or lack of vigilance in keeping an eye on the oem belt with a cut valve cover..
To each his own. For peace of mind, I installed a Power Enterprise timing belt - others may run a red (toda) one...
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