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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 07:30 AM
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So in my other thread, I changed the spark plugs and air filter, then the car wouldn't start. Turned out(I thought) to be the main fuel relay by the steering column. I drove the car Friday evening and Saturday till we went to a cookout. When I tried to leave Sat evening, it would not start again. I had gone to a scrap yard Sat morning and grabbed some relays, but swapping them didn't help any. What should I look for next? Are there any schematics hosted here on-site? I'm not against changing the fuel pump, but from what I've read, they are pretty reliable.
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 04:10 PM
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Well I found a Honda 94 electrical troubleshooting manual. Hope it helps me figure this out.
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 04:45 PM
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So I swapped out the fuel filter since it's got 110k miles. I knew it wasn't the culprit, but felt it should be done since I have no clue of the maintenance history. Wow, what a pita that was. I didn't have the 14mm crows foot line wrench so I made one. Not sure why it took so much torque to remove(yeah its been in the same spot for 26yrs) but I hope it'll be easier next time.

Still looking into why the main relay doesn't always kick on the in-tank pump.
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Old Jul 18, 2021 | 08:39 PM
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Does it just crank with no start?? If so i would look in to the ecu or tcu if applied. My pump would not tirn on for minutes like 2-23 with key on than fire right up
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Old Jul 19, 2021 | 01:50 AM
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Not sure yet. I just got my troubleshooting book, so I will be able to run down the issue soon. Sometimes the fuel relay kicks on, sometimes it doesn't, or it takes a min to kick on. I grabbed some spare relays from a scrap yard and touched up the solder contacts on the pub, but those didn't work any better.
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 01:34 PM
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OK! My books showed up, so nice for the ebay seller to wait over a week to ship...

Anyhoo, in other threads I've read, the relay contacts are numbered differently than what is on all the relays I have - wtf.

Seems honda has different designations for the relay than what is molded in the relay, go figure.

Hondas numbers


Vs the numbers on the relay...
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Old Jul 28, 2021 | 01:42 PM
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My in tank fuel pump not turning on is intermittent, so it will take a bit to figure out what is going on. As stated, the guy I got it from had dropped the fuel tank at one point, but everything seems to be OK so far. I pulled the rear seat to verify the ground and make sure there were no hacked up wires. I also left the trim piece out so it can check for voltage if I encounter another no start.

As a aside, has anyone put a small subwoofer box in this space? Seems like it's screaming for a kicker 6 or 8 inch sub!




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Old Aug 11, 2021 | 12:23 PM
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So in my searching for info, I saw it posted that an older relay might have weak springs. Not sure how that would apply here, but I decided to try a new main relay anyway. The new main relay has no moving parts! Its all ICs! Anyone ever use one?


Edit, forgot pics.




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