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1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 08:02 PM
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Default 1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

Is it possible to buy an entire key set for the ignition, the doors, the trunk, glovebox, and trunk lever lock?

Or to have a locksmith re-key a new lock cylinder to match my original key?

I really really hate walking around with 2 keys for one damn car.
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Old Sep 9, 2020 | 08:29 PM
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You need the wafers to fix up the lock cylinders. Everything I've seen, people collect them from the salvage yards and then pick and choose the least worn ones with the numbers they need to fix up the cylinder to their key.

I don't think Honda sells the wafers any more if they ever did but that is the one shot. Thought there was a set of 9 or 10. If you need 2 #3 wafers you'd need 2 sets.
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 01:43 AM
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So, you think I could buy a replacement cylinder on ebay or something, then hit up the junkyards to collect wafers and repin my newly purchased lock cylinder to my key?

How do I find the what my key's numbering is? And would a door lock wafer be the same as an ignition cylinder wafer?
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 05:16 AM
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The door lock should be the same as for the wafer numbering and order. I think it's a different lock cylinder due to being a door lock but the wafer sequence should be the same.

If you are hitting up the salvage yards, why wouldn't you just buy the lock cylinder there instead of hitting ebay used crap that came from the salvage yards anyway?
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 12:34 PM
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Default Re: 1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

hmm I suppose you're right. I can just get a lock cylinder from the junkyard and swap out those wafers.
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 04:51 PM
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Be sure to get the ones with keys. I think you need the key to be able to turn the cylinder to be able to crack it open without damage if I remember correctly. Google honda lock cylinder rekey and I'm pretty sure you will find some videos about the wafers etc.
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 04:54 PM
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Don't know if the EKs are like this but with the EGs you can use the same key on different EGs sometimes. I've went to the junk yard in the past and just kept trying my key in different ignition locks until one turned smoothly and bought it. Did this with two different keys and two different ignition locks. If not then swap wafers but don't lose those little springs.
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Old Sep 10, 2020 | 05:22 PM
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Default Re: 1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

Originally Posted by fryman
I've went to the junk yard in the past and just kept trying my key in different ignition locks until one turned smoothly and bought it.
Done similar.
Had one cylinder damaged but the wafers were fine.
Just got another cylinder, gutted it and then installed my old wafers. Still works fine.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 05:00 AM
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Default Re: 1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

Honda still sells the wafers. I just reykeyed a lock a couple months ago, it’s super easy. Pull the trunk cylinder, Write down the numbers on the wafers in order, take apart your new ignition cylinder, see what you need, and order away. Keep in mind that when you order them you’ll get a bag of ten for each unit you order. There are also aftermarket kits with a selection of wafer. Those are not numbered So you have to fiddle around and figure out which ones work. If you still have the punched out original cylinder you may be able to salvage the wafers from it and load them into the new lock, but the car will be more secure with new wafers (see fryman’s post above) because the locks are old and the wafers tend to be worn.
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Old Sep 11, 2020 | 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

In a bind, you can also pull out wafers to get the combination you need. For instance, if your doors are 2-2-3-3, and your new ignition cylinder is 1-2-3-4, you can pull out the #1 and #4 wafers from the ignition cylinder to get X-2-3-X (where X is an empty slot) and it will work with the door key. This is much less secure as spAadam said, if you're concerned about that kind of thing.

Good to know Honda still sells them - I didn't know that. I have harvested cylinders and wafers from the yards in the past.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 05:37 AM
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I'd just bring it to a locksmith to re-key w/ new keys made. Your original key is probably worn out and making a new key from it probably give you problems down the line. Up to you.
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Old Sep 14, 2020 | 05:31 PM
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Default Re: 1997 theft recovery with punched out ignition lock

I had a locksmith make a OEM Honda Key based on the key code and unlike factory, they leave the sharp points that are filed down on the original. Much sharper key, Also think it will wear on the wafers more than the factory original. They explained they leave them sharp unlike factory.

This is also assuming the locksmith is automotive certified to have access to the code key cuts like mine was. Instead of 5 bucks for a key cut from my key, it was 25 bucks for a key cut from the OEM database using the key code from the original key.
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