All Motor / Naturally Aspirated No power adders

B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 06:22 AM
  #1  
Pablomg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 108
Likes: 2
Default B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

hey, i had high comp ycp pro3 but broke it. Now i want try pro2 on stock block, the question is what cam degree min. should be for non hit the oem pistons? i dont have tools for measurement

When it ends the set up with 10:1 cr 91 oct, post here the results
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 07:37 AM
  #2  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

Originally Posted by Pablomg
hey, i had high comp ycp pro3 but broke it. Now i want try pro2 on stock block, the question is what cam degree min. should be for non hit the oem pistons? i dont have tools for measurement

When it ends the set up with 10:1 cr 91 oct, post here the results
I'm afraid no one is going to do that. Those camshafts were made specifically for higher compression of at least 11.8:1 and up. No one puts that high of a lift camshaft in a stock block and expect anything to change performance wise. Your best bet is to go back to a stock camshaft until you're ready with a new block to support the Pro2 Camshafts.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 09:28 AM
  #3  
Pablomg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 108
Likes: 2
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 stock block

Originally Posted by TheShodan
I'm afraid no one is going to do that. Those camshafts were made specifically for higher compression of at least 11.8:1 and up. No one puts that high of a lift camshaft in a stock block and expect anything to change performance wise. Your best bet is to go back to a stock camshaft until you're ready with a new block to support the Pro2 Camshafts.
I met a guy at a meet who had this set up with 209 whp on the dynojet, it ran hard up to 9200 rpm and the valve clearance had it just right without the need for shaved pistons with stock 9,6:1 93 oct,but I can't find him to consult him. Anyway I just made an air compressor for blocked vtec so once I have the results I will post it. I would even have liked to get a b20z to reach 11:1 / 11,2:1 but this low comp was cheap.


Reply
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 11:15 AM
  #4  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 stock block

Originally Posted by Pablomg
I met a guy at a meet who had this set up with 209 whp on the dynojet, it ran hard up to 9200 rpm and the valve clearance had it just right without the need for shaved pistons with stock 9,6:1 93 oct,but I can't find him to consult him. Anyway I just made an air compressor for blocked vtec so once I have the results I will post it. I would even have liked to get a b20z to reach 11:1 / 11,2:1 but this low comp was cheap.
That's fine. I won't dispute that. you can afford what you can. but don't expect any positive results. the example you showed doesn't take into account any responsiveness or usable powerband.. What you're seeing is one gear.. peak power
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 01:26 PM
  #5  
Pablomg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 108
Likes: 2
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 stock block

Originally Posted by TheShodan
That's fine. I won't dispute that. you can afford what you can. but don't expect any positive results. the example you showed doesn't take into account any responsiveness or usable powerband.. What you're seeing is one gear.. peak power
Yes, I know the importance of the powerband, my old set up worked faster with the pro2 than the pro3, I know 3 other guys who regretted going from pro2 @ pro3 ... I really think that pro3 is for 2.1L stroker - 2.2L, my purpose with this set up is to have a very cheap and powerful swap ... For the powerband I can always delay the vtec, even try b16 intake or an LS lol, it's a matter of testing
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2020 | 06:05 PM
  #6  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 stock block

Originally Posted by Pablomg
Yes, I know the importance of the powerband, my old set up worked faster with the pro2 than the pro3, I know 3 other guys who regretted going from pro2 @ pro3 ... I really think that pro3 is for 2.1L stroker - 2.2L, my purpose with this set up is to have a very cheap and powerful swap ... For the powerband I can always delay the vtec, even try b16 intake or an LS lol, it's a matter of testing
If you say so.... I'll leave you to it, sir.
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2020 | 01:09 AM
  #7  
Evil Munkey's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 12
Likes: 0
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

I bet vtec would hit hard af. Go for it
Reply
Old Aug 17, 2020 | 11:51 AM
  #8  
2LEM1's Avatar
I like to party
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,711
Likes: 8
From: Yay Area, CA
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

Do you understand how cam lift and duration affect compression?
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2020 | 07:30 PM
  #9  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

Originally Posted by 2LEM1
Do you understand how cam lift and duration affect compression?
It may be best if you can provide with him some links or other video information or reading material as to how lift and duration on a camshaft function as a correlation with engine RPM and both static & effective compression ratio.

I understand that it might be a tall order to take some time to give him a bit of a "spoon feed", but I'm quite sure that it will help him understand this at length, as opposed to him posting multiple threads of the same topic in multiple forums ;-). (Sorry, I had to.. it was getting pretty bad, and i couldn't just penalize him for being such an "eager beaver". ;-))

if anyone has the ability to give that type of information in a quick and reasonable manner, it's you, my friend. I'm semi- retired.
Reply
Old Aug 18, 2020 | 08:05 PM
  #10  
Pablomg's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2019
Posts: 108
Likes: 2
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

I only asked for p2v clearance for stock block, I did not ask for debate or discussions as suggested by the title of the post changed by an administrator
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2020 | 07:47 AM
  #11  
2LEM1's Avatar
I like to party
15 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 4,711
Likes: 8
From: Yay Area, CA
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

Originally Posted by TheShodan
It may be best if you can provide with him some links or other video information or reading material as to how lift and duration on a camshaft function as a correlation with engine RPM and both static & effective compression ratio.

I understand that it might be a tall order to take some time to give him a bit of a "spoon feed", but I'm quite sure that it will help him understand this at length, as opposed to him posting multiple threads of the same topic in multiple forums ;-). (Sorry, I had to.. it was getting pretty bad, and i couldn't just penalize him for being such an "eager beaver". ;-))

if anyone has the ability to give that type of information in a quick and reasonable manner, it's you, my friend. I'm semi- retired.

IB should start paying us

I have a broken hand and typing hurts so I figured I'd just drop some crumbs and let him figure it out, but he seems intent on ignoring people that have been doing this for decades so I'll just let him do his thing.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2020 | 02:24 PM
  #12  
TheShodan's Avatar
Moderator
20 Year Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 24,555
Likes: 241
From: City of Wind, IL, USA
Default Re: B20 vtec pro2 camshafts using the stock block. Good idea? Discuss

Originally Posted by Pablomg
I only asked for p2v clearance for stock block, I did not ask for debate or discussions as suggested by the title of the post changed by an administrator
I could always just give infraction points instead next time. Pick your poison, sir. That took a lot of time to clean up your multiple posts of the same information. I thought I would take a higher road, with using titles that people could more than likely understand and give more feedback to you as opposed to re-reading the same information attempting to guess the title topic. That way, everyone wins, and no one is penalized. Seem fair?

Hopefully, you'll get an answer that is satisfactory to you, sir.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jdmdelsol51
Tech / Misc
0
Feb 25, 2010 05:24 PM
the EM1 kid.
Southeast (Sales)
5
Mar 2, 2009 09:29 PM
norcalbayboy
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
2
Aug 17, 2006 11:22 AM
Norcalstoppy
Tech / Misc
15
Aug 7, 2002 10:15 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:10 PM.