Turbo TSX Build Questions.
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Turbo TSX Build Questions.
Alright so I have converted my truck buddy into a guy and he’s selling his truck and looking for a TSX 6speed one of the 2000s models and it does have a K24A right? How good are the trannies(how much power can they take), how easy are they to turbo, eBay turbo kits a good option? How hard are stronger clutches to find if any, what injectors would he want to run, good fuel pumps, his power goal is like 350-400Whp maybe 500whp (yes we are going to put lower compression positions and hbeam rods in) anything else r we should worry about
Re: Turbo TSX Build Questions.
I gotta slow you down, there, my friend. Way too many questions without looking at other K-series turbocharged applications, with some complexity and simplicity at the same time.
How "easy" or "hard" something is to install or develop really depends upon your mechanical inclination, your budget, and your facilities that are available to tune. We don't know those resources, so please don't assume that we know your preferences and availability of parts. A lot of this is duplicated from other builds, but you need to look at some of them first before deciding. They don't have to be a TSX, but a K-series engine turbo setup is nice to look for when doing this.
Having said all that, I'll move on quickly.
That is correct. The K24A2 to be exact. These are 11.0:1 or so. There's no need to go to lower the compression if you're using forged pistons & rods. That whole thought process has long gone the way of the Doe-Doe bird.
That all depends upon what you're doing and the purpose of the car. If you're planning on drag racing, and "slamming' into gears, plan on not having them last long, as they are a little more sensitive than the B/D/F series engines. So, I can easily say I can sustain over 400whp with a stock transmission, but I also don't drag race, either. There are enhancements available, but you need to check out other setups to see what they have done also.
Don't use eBay at all. Nothing from these kits. Nothing. In fact, never mention it again. I don't care if you've used them on 40 other platforms. Not on this engine. No way, no how. Not if you want to keep it alive.
Retrofitting a turbocharger is just as complex as it is on any other Honda. you may want to check on the Forced Induction forums (K24 Turbocharger Questions) to check out some ideas on what was done. IT can be done quite well, but you need to check that thread and the FAQs to get further details. You're not going to get a Step-by-step How-to here to get your answers.
Plenty of companies out there including Competition, SPEC, Clutchmasters, to name the best ones. You don't need a "twin disk" in order to make the power levels you're looking for, nor do you need high rpm to reach these goals. You want the clutch based upon TORQUE rating % over stock, not POWER. This is how many people make their mistake, and wind up with a fatigued left leg.
Something that's Bosch-style that can integrate into the K-series engines. Injector Dynamics, South Bay, and Fuel Injector Clinic to name the major ones. This is a fuel-returnless system, so fuel pressure regulation is important.
But not without getting the right hardware and software first. So, Hondata, K-Tuned, and even standalones can work.
Not necessarily. IF you know the correct resources, you'll be able to do this. But your "buddy" needs to bone up on Honda K-series engines, and needs to start coming here themselves.
Good luck, and welcome. It's going to be a long ride, but if done properly, it'll be worth it.
How "easy" or "hard" something is to install or develop really depends upon your mechanical inclination, your budget, and your facilities that are available to tune. We don't know those resources, so please don't assume that we know your preferences and availability of parts. A lot of this is duplicated from other builds, but you need to look at some of them first before deciding. They don't have to be a TSX, but a K-series engine turbo setup is nice to look for when doing this.
Having said all that, I'll move on quickly.
That all depends upon what you're doing and the purpose of the car. If you're planning on drag racing, and "slamming' into gears, plan on not having them last long, as they are a little more sensitive than the B/D/F series engines. So, I can easily say I can sustain over 400whp with a stock transmission, but I also don't drag race, either. There are enhancements available, but you need to check out other setups to see what they have done also.
Don't use eBay at all. Nothing from these kits. Nothing. In fact, never mention it again. I don't care if you've used them on 40 other platforms. Not on this engine. No way, no how. Not if you want to keep it alive.
Retrofitting a turbocharger is just as complex as it is on any other Honda. you may want to check on the Forced Induction forums (K24 Turbocharger Questions) to check out some ideas on what was done. IT can be done quite well, but you need to check that thread and the FAQs to get further details. You're not going to get a Step-by-step How-to here to get your answers.
Plenty of companies out there including Competition, SPEC, Clutchmasters, to name the best ones. You don't need a "twin disk" in order to make the power levels you're looking for, nor do you need high rpm to reach these goals. You want the clutch based upon TORQUE rating % over stock, not POWER. This is how many people make their mistake, and wind up with a fatigued left leg.
But not without getting the right hardware and software first. So, Hondata, K-Tuned, and even standalones can work.
Good luck, and welcome. It's going to be a long ride, but if done properly, it'll be worth it.
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Re: Turbo TSX Build Questions.
[QUOTE=TheShodan;52121309]I gotta slow you down, there, my friend. Way too many questions without looking at other K-series turbocharged applications, with some complexity and simplicity at the same time.
How "easy" or "hard" something is to install or develop really depends upon your mechanical inclination, your budget, and your facilities that are available to tune. We don't know those resources, so please don't assume that we know your preferences and availability of parts. A lot of this is duplicated from other builds, but you need to look at some of them first before deciding. They don't have to be a TSX, but a K-series engine turbo setup is nice to look for when doing this.
Having said all that, I'll move on quickly.
That is correct. The K24A2 to be exact. These are 11.0:1 or so. There's no need to go to lower the compression if you're using forged pistons & rods. That whole thought process has long gone the way of the Doe-Doe bird.
That all depends upon what you're doing and the purpose of the car. If you're planning on drag racing, and "slamming' into gears, plan on not having them last long, as they are a little more sensitive than the B/D/F series engines. So, I can easily say I can sustain over 400whp with a stock transmission, but I also don't drag race, either. There are enhancements available, but you need to check out other setups to see what they have done also.
Don't use eBay at all. Nothing from these kits. Nothing. In fact, never mention it again. I don't care if you've used them on 40 other platforms. Not on this engine. No way, no how. Not if you want to keep it alive.
Retrofitting a turbocharger is just as complex as it is on any other Honda. you may want to check on the Forced Induction forums (Dax, older but not necessarily wiser) to check out some ideas on what was done. IT can be done quite well, but you need to check that thread and the FAQs to get further details. You're not going to get a Step-by-step How-to here to get your answers.
Plenty of companies out there including Competition, SPEC, Clutchmasters, to name the best ones. You don't need a "twin disk" in order to make the power levels you're looking for, nor do you need high rpm to reach these goals. You want the clutch based upon TORQUE rating % over stock, not POWER. This is how many people make their mistake, and wind up with a fatigued left leg.
Wow thanks for such a detailed response! and I'm not looking to buy a car off of here XD. Actually helps quite a bit! Bc I'm willing to learn as well bc me and my dad are going to k swap our 2003 mini S so I do need to learn stuff about these engines anyways. He's recently got that truck running and wants to keep it now and he's the yee yee get er done big lift and tires kinda guy but imma try and convert him back to a car guy lol. Yes his 2001 Sierra has a 5.3 and there's just as much available in terms of aftermarket parts with Honda motors but it's much more of a pain in terms of the shitty 4l60es in those trucks and same with the diffs and driveshafts. You don't have to worry with all that except for the axles in fwd cars bc usually their trannys from what I've seen are really good up to a point so he shouldn't have to worry about that. But he hates driving my friends boss Mustang and it's got an aftermarket clutch (stronger than stock by a little) and he can't handle 444hp anyways so the goal for him Would probably be around 350ish bc he wants it to be fast but we don't want him to kill himself so... Lol
How "easy" or "hard" something is to install or develop really depends upon your mechanical inclination, your budget, and your facilities that are available to tune. We don't know those resources, so please don't assume that we know your preferences and availability of parts. A lot of this is duplicated from other builds, but you need to look at some of them first before deciding. They don't have to be a TSX, but a K-series engine turbo setup is nice to look for when doing this.
Having said all that, I'll move on quickly.
That is correct. The K24A2 to be exact. These are 11.0:1 or so. There's no need to go to lower the compression if you're using forged pistons & rods. That whole thought process has long gone the way of the Doe-Doe bird.
That all depends upon what you're doing and the purpose of the car. If you're planning on drag racing, and "slamming' into gears, plan on not having them last long, as they are a little more sensitive than the B/D/F series engines. So, I can easily say I can sustain over 400whp with a stock transmission, but I also don't drag race, either. There are enhancements available, but you need to check out other setups to see what they have done also.
Don't use eBay at all. Nothing from these kits. Nothing. In fact, never mention it again. I don't care if you've used them on 40 other platforms. Not on this engine. No way, no how. Not if you want to keep it alive.
Retrofitting a turbocharger is just as complex as it is on any other Honda. you may want to check on the Forced Induction forums (Dax, older but not necessarily wiser) to check out some ideas on what was done. IT can be done quite well, but you need to check that thread and the FAQs to get further details. You're not going to get a Step-by-step How-to here to get your answers.
Plenty of companies out there including Competition, SPEC, Clutchmasters, to name the best ones. You don't need a "twin disk" in order to make the power levels you're looking for, nor do you need high rpm to reach these goals. You want the clutch based upon TORQUE rating % over stock, not POWER. This is how many people make their mistake, and wind up with a fatigued left leg.
what injectors would he want to run, good fuel pumps, his power goal is like 350-400Whp maybe 500whp ]
Something that's Bosch-style that can integrate into the K-series engines. Injector Dynamics, South Bay, and Fuel Injector Clinic to name the major ones. This is a fuel-returnless system, so fuel pressure regulation is important.
But not without getting the right hardware and software first. So, Hondata, K-Tuned, and even standalones can work.
Not necessarily. IF you know the correct resources, you'll be able to do this. But your "buddy" needs to bone up on Honda K-series engines, and needs to start coming here themselves.
Good luck, and welcome. It's going to be a long ride, but if done properly, it'll be worth it.
Something that's Bosch-style that can integrate into the K-series engines. Injector Dynamics, South Bay, and Fuel Injector Clinic to name the major ones. This is a fuel-returnless system, so fuel pressure regulation is important.
But not without getting the right hardware and software first. So, Hondata, K-Tuned, and even standalones can work.
Not necessarily. IF you know the correct resources, you'll be able to do this. But your "buddy" needs to bone up on Honda K-series engines, and needs to start coming here themselves.
Good luck, and welcome. It's going to be a long ride, but if done properly, it'll be worth it.
Wow thanks for such a detailed response! and I'm not looking to buy a car off of here XD. Actually helps quite a bit! Bc I'm willing to learn as well bc me and my dad are going to k swap our 2003 mini S so I do need to learn stuff about these engines anyways. He's recently got that truck running and wants to keep it now and he's the yee yee get er done big lift and tires kinda guy but imma try and convert him back to a car guy lol. Yes his 2001 Sierra has a 5.3 and there's just as much available in terms of aftermarket parts with Honda motors but it's much more of a pain in terms of the shitty 4l60es in those trucks and same with the diffs and driveshafts. You don't have to worry with all that except for the axles in fwd cars bc usually their trannys from what I've seen are really good up to a point so he shouldn't have to worry about that. But he hates driving my friends boss Mustang and it's got an aftermarket clutch (stronger than stock by a little) and he can't handle 444hp anyways so the goal for him Would probably be around 350ish bc he wants it to be fast but we don't want him to kill himself so... Lol
Re: Turbo TSX Build Questions.
[QUOTE=boostie boi;52121322]
Wow thanks for such a detailed response! and I'm not looking to buy a car off of here XD]/quote]
Not buy.. I mean to observe. Look at what the process of putting together these engines and retrofitting turbochargers takes. Not to purchase a car here. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.
Well, that will be a completely different animal of learning than turbocharging, even if you're talking about a similar engine in the Mini Cooper S.
But you have to be careful. There is such a thing as too many choices that lead people to make a bad choice just as much as they are to make a good one. That is why eBay is to be avoided at all costs regarding these engines. Regardless of swap or purpose.
Again, he could easily destroy a transmission or axle just as easily if he treats it like it is RWD or some other platform. I've seen plenty of people swear that they "know how to drive" only to destroy the one component they weren't as familiar with; the transmission and its nuances. 444hp in a TSX is a completely different animal than anything he's every driven. So, 300-350whp will be more than fine. Just have him look at the information carefully. the TSX is not the most common Sedan to turbocharge, but it can be done.
Wow thanks for such a detailed response! and I'm not looking to buy a car off of here XD]/quote]
Not buy.. I mean to observe. Look at what the process of putting together these engines and retrofitting turbochargers takes. Not to purchase a car here. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.
He's recently got that truck running and wants to keep it now and he's the yee yee get er done big lift and tires kinda guy but imma try and convert him back to a car guy lol. Yes his 2001 Sierra has a 5.3 and there's just as much available in terms of aftermarket parts with Honda motors but it's much more of a pain in terms of the shitty 4l60es in those trucks and same with the diffs and driveshafts.
You don't have to worry with all that except for the axles in fwd cars bc usually their trannys from what I've seen are really good up to a point so he shouldn't have to worry about that. But he hates driving my friends boss Mustang and it's got an aftermarket clutch (stronger than stock by a little) and he can't handle 444hp anyways so the goal for him Would probably be around 350ish bc he wants it to be fast but we don't want him to kill himself so... Lol
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Re: Turbo TSX Build Questions.
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ok i gotcha ill look haha. youre good XD
well im planning on building a 96 Lexus SC300 and ive done so much research and spent so much time on forums and talked to people irl about doing something like this so i think i got turboing something down its pretty simple if you really think about it(adding fuel, turbo manifold, wastegate(s), BOV(s), charge piping, intercooler, doing the math to figure out how efficient your turbo will be and picking the right turbo). on that note ive got a whole list of engine, drivetrain, turbo, electronic, gaskets, ecu, fuel pump(s), fuel cell, and fuel injectors ready for when I can buy the car here in the next 4 months or so i already have done all the research on what i need to do to turbo it and what im going to buy to make a reliable 700whp and make the car look and handle good. but i think hes just stuck on the TSX bc his buddy has one and says that "it had NOS and a built motor" which neither of which were true. but ive built plenty of motors some with more than stock hp some stock hp thatll be the easy part(if my friend does get a TSX). (me and my dad) were going to K24A2 (and turbo it) swap the mini cooper bc the stock motor is a shitty chrysler 1.6L. that starts knocking after like 10K miles even if you rebuild it right. that motor is such a meme its not even funny lol.
yea ik theres a thing as too many choices. but ik hes not going to turbo his truck ik him haha. but if he does get a civic or a TSX me and my friend (with the boss) will help him turbo it bc thatd be wayyyyyyyyyyyyy cooler lol.
I get what youre saying. XDDDDDDD ik so many people like that that cant handle the power they have and i only know 2 people that can actually drive lol. oh yea for sure. so for 300whp just use the stock motor and get a borgu and warner turbo a decent intercooler and then an ecu and some injectors and a fuel pump that way it wont blow up lol.
Wow thanks for such a detailed response! and I'm not looking to buy a car off of here XD]/quote]
Not buy.. I mean to observe. Look at what the process of putting together these engines and retrofitting turbochargers takes. Not to purchase a car here. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.
Well, that will be a completely different animal of learning than turbocharging, even if you're talking about a similar engine in the Mini Cooper S.
But you have to be careful. There is such a thing as too many choices that lead people to make a bad choice just as much as they are to make a good one. That is why eBay is to be avoided at all costs regarding these engines. Regardless of swap or purpose.
Again, he could easily destroy a transmission or axle just as easily if he treats it like it is RWD or some other platform. I've seen plenty of people swear that they "know how to drive" only to destroy the one component they weren't as familiar with; the transmission and its nuances. 444hp in a TSX is a completely different animal than anything he's every driven. So, 300-350whp will be more than fine. Just have him look at the information carefully. the TSX is not the most common Sedan to turbocharge, but it can be done.
Not buy.. I mean to observe. Look at what the process of putting together these engines and retrofitting turbochargers takes. Not to purchase a car here. I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear.
Well, that will be a completely different animal of learning than turbocharging, even if you're talking about a similar engine in the Mini Cooper S.
But you have to be careful. There is such a thing as too many choices that lead people to make a bad choice just as much as they are to make a good one. That is why eBay is to be avoided at all costs regarding these engines. Regardless of swap or purpose.
Again, he could easily destroy a transmission or axle just as easily if he treats it like it is RWD or some other platform. I've seen plenty of people swear that they "know how to drive" only to destroy the one component they weren't as familiar with; the transmission and its nuances. 444hp in a TSX is a completely different animal than anything he's every driven. So, 300-350whp will be more than fine. Just have him look at the information carefully. the TSX is not the most common Sedan to turbocharge, but it can be done.
well im planning on building a 96 Lexus SC300 and ive done so much research and spent so much time on forums and talked to people irl about doing something like this so i think i got turboing something down its pretty simple if you really think about it(adding fuel, turbo manifold, wastegate(s), BOV(s), charge piping, intercooler, doing the math to figure out how efficient your turbo will be and picking the right turbo). on that note ive got a whole list of engine, drivetrain, turbo, electronic, gaskets, ecu, fuel pump(s), fuel cell, and fuel injectors ready for when I can buy the car here in the next 4 months or so i already have done all the research on what i need to do to turbo it and what im going to buy to make a reliable 700whp and make the car look and handle good. but i think hes just stuck on the TSX bc his buddy has one and says that "it had NOS and a built motor" which neither of which were true. but ive built plenty of motors some with more than stock hp some stock hp thatll be the easy part(if my friend does get a TSX). (me and my dad) were going to K24A2 (and turbo it) swap the mini cooper bc the stock motor is a shitty chrysler 1.6L. that starts knocking after like 10K miles even if you rebuild it right. that motor is such a meme its not even funny lol.
yea ik theres a thing as too many choices. but ik hes not going to turbo his truck ik him haha. but if he does get a civic or a TSX me and my friend (with the boss) will help him turbo it bc thatd be wayyyyyyyyyyyyy cooler lol.
I get what youre saying. XDDDDDDD ik so many people like that that cant handle the power they have and i only know 2 people that can actually drive lol. oh yea for sure. so for 300whp just use the stock motor and get a borgu and warner turbo a decent intercooler and then an ecu and some injectors and a fuel pump that way it wont blow up lol.
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