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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 03:18 AM
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Guys I have a b16 turbo, just want to know whats a ideal temp to set the fan to come on at, currently I have the cooling system stock, oem thermostat and fan switch, fan come on at 205F and goes off at 195F



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Old Jan 4, 2020 | 04:26 PM
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Guys I have a b16 turbo, just want to know whats a ideal temp to set the fan to come on at, currently I have the cooling system stock, oem thermostat and fan switch, fan come on at 205F and goes off at 195F
I've got mine set to come on at 185 <90mph. Have NEVER come close to anything resembling overtemp. Lol!
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I've got mine set to come on at 185 <90mph. Have NEVER come close to anything resembling overtemp. Lol!
I also use 185F and fan stays on below 90 mph. My temps rarely get over 192F now, even with AC blasting in the summer.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 03:35 PM
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I also use 185F and fan stays on below 90 mph. My temps rarely get over 192F now, even with AC blasting in the summer.
What's ur cooling setup like? Radiator, fan etc
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 03:39 PM
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What's ur cooling setup like? Radiator, fan etc
mine is stock EG half-core radiator, shroud, and fan.
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Old Jan 5, 2020 | 03:48 PM
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What's ur cooling setup like? Radiator, fan etc
1/2 size dual core radiator from Go-Autoworks with a SPAL 30102029 fan on a shroud. The fan is wired with a relay and 12 AWG wire. I'm running a bottle of Water-Wetter in the coolant. I've been running distilled water in the summer and Honda Type 2 coolant in the cold months. My turbo is also water cooled, so one hose comes from the water pipe on the back of the block and the other comes from the bottom of the radiator.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 03:59 PM
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1/2 size dual core radiator from Go-Autoworks with a SPAL 30102029 fan on a shroud. The fan is wired with a relay and 12 AWG wire. I'm running a bottle of Water-Wetter in the coolant. I've been running distilled water in the summer and Honda Type 2 coolant in the cold months. My turbo is also water cooled, so one hose comes from the water pipe on the back of the block and the other comes from the bottom of the radiator.
OK are u running a thermostat if so what kind
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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OK are u running a thermostat if so what kind
Yes. I've got a Beck-Arnley stock replacement in there.
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 01:31 AM
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Yes. I've got a Beck-Arnley stock replacement in there.
And u say ur fan comes in at 185, last time I set my fan to come in at that temp with a oem thermostat in the fan came in and wudnt go back out
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 04:17 AM
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And u say ur fan comes in at 185, last time I set my fan to come in at that temp with a oem thermostat in the fan came in and wudnt go back out
This sounds like a legit cooling or sensor issue. When the fan kicks on at say, 185, it should kick back off as soon as it cools below that threshold; 184.
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 06:45 AM
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I’ve got mine set up for the fan to come in at 185. When being tuned, it was around 40 degrees that evening but obviously he was working the car pretty hard. It never went above 184. Factory t stat, factory fan, half size aluminum radiator (wiggleys radiator I think).
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 06:50 AM
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So when u guys set it to come on at 185 what temp do you set it to go off at? If it goes out at 184 the fan wud be cycling very often, I want it to cycle like how it would on the stock setup, I'm running the stock setup now, the fan switch turns it on at about 205 and it turns off at 195, I'm jus wondering if this it too hot for a turbocharged setup
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 07:02 AM
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So when u guys set it to come on at 185 what temp do you set it to go off at? If it goes out at 184 the fan wud be cycling very often, I want it to cycle like how it would on the stock setup, I'm running the stock setup now, the fan switch turns it on at about 205 and it turns off at 195, I'm jus wondering if this it too hot for a turbocharged setup
Honestly, I'm not sure 100% what the setting is to shut off. I can swear it is when it cools down a couple degrees. I'll have to look at my settings. 205 is definitely too high. 195 is too high.
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 07:05 AM
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Honestly, I'm not sure 100% what the setting is to shut off. I can swear it is when it cools down a couple degrees. I'll have to look at my settings. 205 is definitely too high. 195 is too high.
Ok but as I said this is the stock cooling setting I'm running, oem thermostat and fan switch
I jus don't want the fan running constant or cycling too often, and if I set it to 185 it will either won't go out or cycle too often and I would have to take the thermostat out for it to cycle at 185 and 184
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 07:06 AM
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Ok but as I said this is the stock cooling setting I'm running, oem thermostat and fan switch
But your car did not come stock with turbo, right?
The settings should be changed. The components are ok, UNLESS you're having deeper issues. My cooling system is also stock and my setup is extensive.
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 07:18 AM
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But your car did not come stock with turbo, right?
The settings should be changed. The components are ok, UNLESS you're having deeper issues. My cooling system is also stock and my setup is extensive.
He needs different equipment. I've never used my software to change any thermostat or fan switch settings. all came on at the appropriate time on the OEM settings with a turbocharger , although I did change hardware to support the increased cylinder pressurpresf turbocharging
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Old Jan 14, 2020 | 07:24 AM
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He needs different equipment. I've never used my software to change any thermostat or fan switch settings. all came on at the appropriate time on the OEM settings with a turbocharger , although I did change hardware to support the increased cylinder pressurpresf turbocharging
Dats wat I wanna Know shodan if the stock cooling setting is sufficient for a turbocharged setup, I'm not running anything over 350whp, I have a spal fan with aluminum half size radiator double core, stock fan switch an thermostat, distilled water with water wetter, I live in Jamaica so it's hot climate all year round here
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He needs different equipment. I've never used my software to change any thermostat or fan switch settings. all came on at the appropriate time on the OEM settings with a turbocharger , although I did change hardware to support the increased cylinder pressurpresf turbocharging
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Dats wat I wanna Know shodan if the stock cooling setting is sufficient for a turbocharged setup, I'm not running anything over 350whp, I have a spal fan with aluminum half size radiator double core, stock fan switch an thermostat, distilled water with water wetter, I live in Jamaica so it's hot climate all year round here
Since Shodan has a different experience with his particular setup and you want to base your questions on those stipulations, yes, you need new hardware. If you want to use STOCK hardware and have the means to change settings to work with that (Neptune RTP, Hondata S300, etc), then try that before spending money on **** you *may not* need.
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Yes, my fan comes on at 185 and goes off at 184. It does cycle, but not every few seconds. It takes the system a little bit to heat up and to cool down. I'm using OEM equivalent thermostat, and OEM fan switch, with settings modified in Hondata.
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Since Shodan has a different experience with his particular setup and you want to base your questions on those stipulations, yes, you need new hardware. If you want to use STOCK hardware and have the means to change settings to work with that (Neptune RTP, Hondata S300, etc), then try that before spending money on **** you *may not* need.
This is true... I do admit... I just was never comfortable changing settings on software, when the right hardware will consistently do its job.

I'm older school, true. However, I don't believe un pushing stock hardware past its engineered limits like the cooling system and using software to bandaid the issue. .

But you're right, experiences vary... but not by much ...
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Dats wat I wanna Know shodan if the stock cooling setting is sufficient for a turbocharged setup, I'm not running anything over 350whp, I have a spal fan with aluminum half size radiator double core, stock fan switch an thermostat, distilled water with water wetter, I live in Jamaica so it's hot climate all year round here
I run a few serious setups in Barbados. it depends on what radiator tire using, not just aftermarket vs.oem. people in the Caribbean get so messed up with duties and taxes that they can't get the good equipment and have to settle a lot of the time, cour less quality aftermarket hard equipment
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 02:58 PM
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This is true... I do admit... I just was never comfortable changing settings on software, when the right hardware will consistently do its job.

I'm older school, true. However, I don't believe un pushing stock hardware past its engineered limits like the cooling system and using software to bandaid the issue. .

But you're right, experiences vary... but not by much ...
There's no reason to believe the stock hardware should not do its job here; ultimately what I was trying to stress, especially since the settings were not adjusted. I had posted up what I set my cooling parameters to on the same stock hardware I've run so far on 2 builds, both displaying identical results: fantastic! Lol! If adjustments are made within the tune and problems still exist, then our fella should explore options to swap stuff out. Think about it; would you replace an engine if all you need is an oil change? All the SPAL fans and quintuple core icemaking radiators in the world won't matter if the tune is not set to respond appropriately during heat cycles.
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Old Jan 15, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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I run a few serious setups in Barbados. it depends on what radiator tire using, not just aftermarket vs.oem. people in the Caribbean get so messed up with duties and taxes that they can't get the good equipment and have to settle a lot of the time, cour less quality aftermarket hard equipment
Ye duties an taxes to ship stuff here from the USA is a killer, you basically pay 2 times for the item u bought when it gets here, so guys here have to settle for the less expensive parts at times
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