Hi. I have a 99 Civic LX with stock rubber hoses. And I'm looking to do a rear disc conversion with Si brakes. and front upgrade with EX/Si knuckle, ITR calipers and Predlude VTEC rotors.

I'm clear on what components i need, but not on the brake hoses. for the rear, since the drums are going away, I think the 99-00 Si would be the one to get. But i'm not quite clear on the fronts

Also if I put an EP3 caliper on the rear, would the 99-00 Si brake hose still work?

thanks

 

SI, because you got rear disc brakes.

 

thanks. So stainless steel 96-00 SI lines for the rear. But say if I upgrade to the EP3 calipers on the rear per BrakeExpert's guide, question is can I continue using the SI SS hose or do i need to get something else? Basically, does the type of caliper used matter?

 

99-00 em1.

 

You can retain the Si SS hose with that.

also, why use Prelude vtec rotors up front when 07 non-type-s Mini Cooper 280mm rotors fit right up and don’t need re-drilling?

Additionally, 2004 TSX pads fit the front brake setup.

 

Ok good to know on the rears.. So I'm OK there.

For the fronts, I had read here that Mini Cooper rotors didn't completely cover the entire pad and that while it would fit, the edge of the pad would overhang on the rotor. Is this not the case with the rotor you called out? If not, then of course I'd prefer not to have to re-drill.

How do the 2004 TSX pads fit in comparison to the ITR pads? would I still have to modify these pads too? The less work, the better. Per BrakeExpert: "Grind down 97-01 Integra Type-R pads at the middle of the backing material. Use a bench grinder to take off material off the inside of the backing plate of the two outer front brake pads. Take off enough material so that it doenst touch the rotor’s hat, about two inches width wise and take the backing material back to the pad material."

 

I didn’t have to modify anything except the dust shield. ITR/Prelude calipers, TSX pads, Cooper rotors all went right on.

 

this is good to know. thank you. i'll go this route. will certainly save time and money not having to redrill...

 

Hi.

would these ones work? Brembo Part number: 8020584019627

I'm not 100% sure because per Brembos website it says:

MINI MINI (R56)

COOPER (85 KW) 09/06 - 11/13

 

Hi

The civic ex and the civic si had the same stopping distances from the factory when new

Why are you looking to spend money on disc brakes? Do you think they look better

 

I don’t know if those will fit, but the Mini Cooper front rotors are supposed to be 280mm for that setup.

These are for his fronts. Drums on the rear, I read, are lighter than calipers. The only reason he might want to swap to calipers on the rears is if he goes with a bigger brake setup.

 

I was vaguely implying that improving a pad and rotor setup does not increase the performance of your brake system, as the whole braking system relies on the contact of the tire and the road to stop the vehicle.

I hate to be the debbie downer guy on car mods, but just because you put bigger rotors and calipers on a car doesnt mean it stops any better. Save that $500 and use it for something else to make your car better for what you use it for every day.

On the 4th gen Camaro forums everyone was upgrading to corvette calipers and rotors, when the truth was a 2002 camaro SS had a shorter stopping distance than the lighter and more nimble 2002 corvette. Why? Because they had the same tires and the Camaro has a larger brake booster and master cylinder to power the abs system

Ending rant, but I always ask why whenever someone says they want to do something

 

that's a fair question to ask.

the short answer is because I have to take everything off and will be replacing parts anyway. yes, i'd still save some money keeping it as is rather than doing what I'm doing, but the difference saved is really not that much. the difference maybe like $100 or $150. considering i'm going to be spending a lot of hours of my time, I'd rather spend a little more and go this way.

getting back to your point however, what motivated me was BrakeExperts post and upgrade chart, where he made a list in order of better braking. I picked the "best" option that was cheapest and simple enough for me. Are you saying that his thread is not accurate? The way I (and maybe others) interpret the chart, bigger rotors and calipers does mean it stops better.... Would appreciate your input here.... if his statements were completely inaccurate, then I'd agree with you that this whole mod I'm doing is a waste of time and money (EX/Si trailing arms, proportioning valve, Master cylinder change,etc). But from what others have posted doing these mods, people seem to have very positive things to say when doing the "upgrade".

For the rears, a lot of it, admittedly is because it looks better. Some said the rear discs gives some improvement (again also per BrakeExperts thread). the difference in cost do do this changeover for me is $200. again, I'd not do this mod if the car were together, but since things are coming out anyway, I figured I'd spend a little do put it back together how I wanted.

again in both cases, I already had to do a lot of the labor, so a few hundred bucks seemed like money well spent with a little extra labor.

 

I didn't realize that. so why did Honda put discs on the Si if they had the same stopping distance? was it just perception of better performance and looks?

 

Yup, so what’s your thoughts on the Mini rotor/TSX pad/ITR caliper front setup and EP3 rears with a 15/16” or 1” MC, @chrysler kid?

(don’t have EP3 rear calipers yet, but am running the pads and rotors w/EP3 brackets and Integra rear calipers)

 

I'd be interested to hear that as well. I was going to go with the EP3 calipers, but just this week decided to stick with the stock Si. Didn't want to fuss with it, and didn't feel the rear upgrade would make a big enough difference to be worth it when I already sourced the Si parts.