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Old Nov 9, 2019 | 07:21 PM
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So I recently replaced my distributor spark plugs and wires but now my car won’t start in its original firing order now it’ll start as 4213 but it’ll chuckle and have a ruff time starting once warmed up it’ll idle ruff and shake like if it’s missfiring but will drive just fine help any information is greatly appreciated it’s getting pretty annoying

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Has anyone had this problem?. ( Solved it was a bad distributor )

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Old Nov 9, 2019 | 09:05 PM
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You have the wires wrong on the distributor.





No keep in mind, your flat spot is 90 degrees clockwise versus the picture I just posted. you can clearly see you currently have wire four in wire 1's spot.
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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You have the wires wrong on the distributor.





No keep in mind, your flat spot is 90 degrees clockwise versus the picture I just posted. you can clearly see you currently have wire four in wire 1's spot.
tanks but if I plug them in the correct order it will just crank and not turnover
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Old Nov 10, 2019 | 09:20 PM
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OP, your firing order is 180' out. This would suggest that you have either inserted the camshaft key lugs of the distributor incorrectly or the aftermarket distributor that you have purchased has the lug plate installed 180' out... which requires removing the circlip, dropping out the pin, rotating the lug plate 1/2 turn, re-install the pin and the circlip and re-install the distributor. This will allow you to connect the plug wires as TomCat39 illustrated above.
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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 04:11 AM
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Take the distributor off, rotate the shaft 180 degrees and reinstall. Then it should start with the wires plugged in the right place. It is only supposed to go one way but often it is possible to put it on the wrong way. If it seems like you have to force it it is probably as @JRCivic1 said the distributor is put together wrong. If you remove the rotor and insulator plate so you can see the sensors, the one with a single lobe (CYP) should line up to trigger at cylinder #1.

After installing a new distributor you have to set up the timing with a timing light.

It looks like one of those Chinese knockoff distributors, it could be a dud.

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Old Nov 11, 2019 | 01:41 PM
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Thanks @JRCivic1 and @TomCat39 I appreciate the help the distributor was toast since the beginning and @mk378 your right it was a bootleg they had gave me a refurbished one ended up returning it getting a NEW one this time and for a cheaper price . Just installed it plugs are in the right firing order now no shaking no hesitation we’re all good now I appreciate the help !.
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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
OP, your firing order is 180' out. This would suggest that you have either inserted the camshaft key lugs of the distributor incorrectly or the aftermarket distributor that you have purchased has the lug plate installed 180' out... which requires removing the circlip, dropping out the pin, rotating the lug plate 1/2 turn, re-install the pin and the circlip and re-install the distributor. This will allow you to connect the plug wires as TomCat39 illustrated above.
I made an account just to thank JRCivic. I have a CRX that would not start for years after a D16Z6 swap, because the previous owner put together the lug plate 180' out of phase. I had the wiring wrong to account for the 180 out of phase and it actually ran for a short while. Then the car slowly died on me with decreased performance, longer start times and eventually wouldn't start at all. What was happening was the ECU no longer has the injector and spark plugs paired correctly, and eventually adjusted them it to the point the car would no longer would start. I fixed the distributor, changed the wiring and after a few cranks it worked itself out. Thanks JRCivic!

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Old Jul 25, 2020 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jhaluska
I made an account just to thank JRCivic. I have a CRX that would not start for years after a D16Z6 swap, because the previous owner put together the lug plate 180' out of phase. I had the wiring wrong to account for the 180 out of phase and it actually ran for a short while. Then the car slowly died on me with decreased performance, longer start times and eventually wouldn't start at all. What was happening was the ECU no longer has the injector and spark plugs paired correctly, and eventually adjusted them it to the point the car would no longer would start. I fixed the distributor, changed the wiring and after a few cranks it worked itself out. Thanks JRCivic!
No worries... glad I could be of help. That is what this forum is all about... helping each other.
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 04:50 PM
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instead of buying a distributor just learn to test the coil and icm so you aren't throwing perfectly good parts in the trash.

https://www.team-integra.net/threads...ost-2030080573
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Old Jul 27, 2020 | 07:06 PM
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I did test it and but the “ new “ distributor was bad to begin with so I just returned it for a new one
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