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Crack block at bottom bolt of left top motor mount.

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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 08:43 AM
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Default Crack block at bottom bolt of left top motor mount.

Bought this car knowing it was going to need some TLC. Starting going at it and found crack in block were bracket for top left motor mount bolts to block. Looking for opinion on if I should continue repairs. Not looking for performance just daily driver for now.

This was taken from underside. You can see tension pully under bracket that holds top motor mount.
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 11:36 AM
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depends on how deep that bolt is in the block. Might want to get a quote on how much to fix that vs getting a used block. Plus downtime to swap out,
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 11:41 AM
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Looks like a new block to me. Yeah, it may hold for a while, but given the width between the two bolts, there will be a lot of stress applied to both sides of the mount which in turn will cause, initially minor, but ever increasing distortions to the point where a complete failure of the bolt seat will happen.
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 11:50 AM
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It always looks like a new block when its covered properly from dirt and debri, not to mention cleaned up from oil leaks.
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 01:36 PM
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Default Re: Crack block at bottom bolt of left top motor mount.

You'd need to strip it down to a bare block and take it to a weld shop but it's fixable. They'd have to rebuild the bolt hole, machine the face, then redrill and tap the hole.

To be honest, it's probably cheaper to find another block.
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Old Oct 10, 2019 | 07:57 PM
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This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. It is likely cheaper to find a replacement engine.
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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
It always looks like a new block when its covered properly from dirt and debri, not to mention cleaned up from oil leaks.
Sorry, what I meant is, it looks like the OP is going to need a new block, not that the block itself looked new.
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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JRCivic1
This ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^. It is likely cheaper to find a replacement engine.
Hmmm, I would argue all of that machining work would cost more than a replacement motor from a bone yard. The fact is, these engines are extremely plentiful and the cost is pretty cheap for a used motor.
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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 06:15 AM
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I think thats where JR was going, he was just agreeing of the process to fix that error on the block.
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Old Oct 13, 2019 | 12:03 PM
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Ok, to clarify... fixing the OP's block properly would require a complete tear-down, a thorough cleaning of the block, an extensive weld up of the damaged area, machining the mounting bracket contact surface flat again, indexing the appropriate location for the new hole, drilling and tapping the hole for a 12mm x 1.25 bolt as original, re-assembling the engine (which will include purchasing a head gasket and any rubber consumable components such as an oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket, etc.), and ultimately, re-installing the engine bracket and timing belt covers. Then you can put the engine back into the engine bay. This process is labor intensive and will cost money unless the OP works in a machine shop and can weld aluminum. "D" series engines can be found in many salvage yards at affordable prices.

The one advantage that the OP will have by repairing the current engine is you already know what you have... buying a used engine will be a risk.
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 06:00 AM
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Default Re: Crack block at bottom bolt of left top motor mount.

Thanks for all the input. I will start the hunt for a new block. The seller got me on this one.
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 06:09 PM
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Default Re: Crack block at bottom bolt of left top motor mount.

I am in the exact same position, except both my upper mount bracket point and lower mount point are broken like this. i came across this hoping to find an easy fix, but i guess i will be looking for a new block as well.

seller got me too
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Old Oct 15, 2019 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Newbrand
Thanks for all the input. I will start the hunt for a new block. The seller got me on this one.
Originally Posted by Billycivic98
I am in the exact same position, except both my upper mount bracket point and lower mount point are broken like this. i came across this hoping to find an easy fix, but i guess i will be looking for a new block as well.

seller got me too
It happens gang... "buyer beware" should always be a concern in the used market. If the deal sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Good luck to both of you.
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:44 AM
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GEAUX TIGERS
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Old Oct 16, 2019 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
GEAUX TIGERS
Shouldn't you be saying "Hook 'em Horns" !?!?

... or was that a gentle prod at my Avatar... hmmm.
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