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Temp gauge shoots up but my car isn’t overheating

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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 06:19 PM
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Default Temp gauge shoots up but my car isn’t overheating

On my b20 swapped 99 ex coupe I had wired some coolant sensors wrong and I fixed them and double checked the coloring on the wires. Well now I noticed my temp gauge shoots right up but My car isn’t overheating? Fan switch is new and before I dump money on sensors I wanna know if anyone has some suggestions?
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Old Feb 10, 2019 | 06:32 PM
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Any chance there is air in the cooling system? I've had erratic gauge readings before when air was introduced after a radiator failure (crack at top endcap).
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 04:32 AM
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Coolent sensor works off of resistance to ground. So with the sensor unplugged it will peg the gague one way and with the wire at the sensor grounded it will peg the other way. Im not sure on a honda which way it will go (as far as pegged hot/cold) but unplugged it should go to one extreme and grounded it will go to the other. If this is the case then the sensor is bad. If it doesn't we will need to dive into the wiring.
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 04:56 AM
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The dash temperature gauge is driven by the sensor in the end of the head with one wire. That is the only thing that this sensor and wire does. The wire shorting to ground will cause the gauge needle to go up to hot. Wire open circuit makes it stay at cold.
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by saywhat
Any chance there is air in the cooling system? I've had erratic gauge readings before when air was introduced after a radiator failure (crack at top endcap).
I just changed my thermostat fan switch and Im not sure if I bleed all the air out but when I get home from work I can try to bleed it again and let you guys know if more air comes out and Ill inspect this radiator for any cracks or anything of that sort
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Old Feb 11, 2019 | 09:50 AM
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The dash temperature gauge is driven by the sensor in the end of the head with one wire. That is the only thing that this sensor and wire does. The wire shorting to ground will cause the gauge needle to go up to hot. Wire open circuit makes it stay at cold.
Yay im not sure if that one wire ( sending unit ) connector is any good . I looked inside the plug lastnight and To me it didn’t look good. When I get home from work I can try to take a pic of inside that plug hopefully worse cause I just gotta get a new connector and not sensors ):
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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pontiacman63383
Coolent sensor works off of resistance to ground. So with the sensor unplugged it will peg the gague one way and with the wire at the sensor grounded it will peg the other way. Im not sure on a honda which way it will go (as far as pegged hot/cold) but unplugged it should go to one extreme and grounded it will go to the other. If this is the case then the sensor is bad. If it doesn't we will need to dive into the wiring.
so I bleed the coolant more and not much more came out. Right when I turn the key to on (ll) without cranking it goes to extreme and I still haven’t overheat(been driving 3 days like this) could this connector itself have bad connection and acts like it’s unplugged?
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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 10:32 AM
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See this thread: https://honda-tech.com/forums/honda-...94-ex-3097857/

I would be interested in knowing how you fix the connector if that is your problem.
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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 03:32 PM
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so I bleed the coolant more and not much more came out. Right when I turn the key to on (ll) without cranking it goes to extreme and I still haven’t overheat(been driving 3 days like this) could this connector itself have bad connection and acts like it’s unplugged?
It could be the connector, bad sensor, broken wire or a list of other problems. Im assuming that the gauge pegs hot as soon as you turn the key on? If so we need to start by testing the sensor. You need to unplug the sensor and then connect that wire to ground. Turn the key on (you don't need to start the car), if the guage stays cold the sensor is bad. If the gauge still pegs hot, then we need to keep testing to find the problem
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Old Feb 13, 2019 | 03:53 PM
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If the wire is open the gauge should stay at cold. If it is shorted, it will go up to hot.

Unplug both ends of the wire (the sensor and the cluster) and check resistance to ground. It should be open circuit.
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Old Feb 14, 2019 | 06:02 AM
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If the wire is open the gauge should stay at cold. If it is shorted, it will go up to hot.

Unplug both ends of the wire (the sensor and the cluster) and check resistance to ground. It should be open circuit.
alright thanks I will do that today when I get home from work I haven’t had time to really do anything cause I been so busy with work. I will keep you guys updated Thanks
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by mk378
If the wire is open the gauge should stay at cold. If it is shorted, it will go up to hot.

Unplug both ends of the wire (the sensor and the cluster) and check resistance to ground. It should be open circuit.
alright guys I switched my cluster out with one of my friends and my temp gauge was reading👍🏼 So ima be buying a new em1 cluster soon
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 08:21 AM
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sell me your old one?
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Old Feb 18, 2019 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
sell me your old one?
keeping it for a shell I have . Just gonna buy the temp/fuel gauge replacement at honda but ima buy another one so they both can have a si cluster
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Old Feb 19, 2019 | 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
sell me your old one?
my buddy on IG at az_partout has clusters and other oem honda things for good prices . He can ship ,he may have a em1 one, seen him post one not to long ago
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