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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 08:55 PM
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I'm still looking for a different engine for my 95 lx.
Found a pick and pull yard with a couple very promising complete engine cars. They where rear-ended or t-boned.
The weird bit is that this yard dose not sell a complete car as they don't want to be liable if you get one back on the road. These cars where sold as scrap I guess.
Anyway, I can buy the front half of a car, so I still get all the needed bits for a swap.
I'm not going for boost or a super fast car. I just want to be able to pass someone on the highway and drive this car for another 300k.
I pulled spark plugs and checked cylinders with my bore-scope camera. Turned them over with a breaker bar.
They seemed ok, but I'm rebuilding which ever one I go with.





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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 08:59 PM
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 10:16 PM
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Why are you not buying an integra?

You're not gaining much those you've pictured.
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Old Jan 28, 2019 | 10:27 PM
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I can get any of these for $200 and I dont really like the D15 with all the drawbacks and limitations.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 01:13 AM
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Go with the F22 or F23. And either do a full F swap or a F2B. You'll have plenty torque for daily driving, and you'll be pretty quick. It all depends on what your goal is. Don't waste money on a D series, unless you turbo the thing. Lol.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by F23Power
Go with the F22 or F23. And either do a full F swap or a F2B. You'll have plenty torque for daily driving, and you'll be pretty quick. It all depends on what your goal is. Don't waste money on a D series, unless you turbo the thing. Lol.
Good luck
sorry but a F22/23 is a waste of money and time. Nice try though...lol
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:10 AM
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sorry but a F22/23 is a waste of money and time. Nice try though...lol
Of all those engines he posted the F is the best choice for what he is looking for. Don't see F22/23 being a waste of money though...if anything a D series is a waste of money. But to each his own i guess..lol.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:14 AM
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^^ To nv turbo
Like no, and the only f series thats worth a **** is the f20b.

None of those motors you posted will really get you up to speed quickly on the highway lol

And maybe try a different junkyard, if you have to buy a half clip of a car just get a swap.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:16 AM
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I'm sure he can build a F22/23 to make 300hp all motor. LOL
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:19 AM
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You know what fpower ain’t lyin it is the best... If you have a ******* accord lmaoooo

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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NVturbo
I'm sure he can build a F22/23 to make 300hp all motor. LOL
So what you saying is he can build a D16 to make 300hp all motor?? All I'm saying is between those D series and F series he posted the F series is the best choice if it is indeed the only thing he can get. He didn't say he's doing a all motor build now did he? He clearly says he gonna rebuild whatever motor. Also I don't see any reason why he couldn't build a 300hp F22/F23, pricey yes but not impossible. Have you built any 300hp all motor? Most probably not...lol
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:33 AM
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All I'm saying is between those D series and F series, F series is the best choice if it is indeed the only thing he can get.l
Really?

So you’re saying that he should just go all ***** out and f swap it huh. Even though he has all his d series axles, ecu, mounts and harness? Just buy all new for the f series right, while rebuilding it. Cause it’s ******* Christmas right
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:44 AM
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Really?

So you’re saying that he should just go all ***** out and f swap it huh. Even though he has all his d series axles, ecu, mounts and harness? Just buy all new for the f series right, while rebuilding it. Cause it’s ******* Christmas right
​​​Have you actually read the OP's post rather than just run your mouth? I don't see how a A6 or a Y8 or ANY D series is gonna make him any faster than what he is now. So he supposed to spend 200 bucks, plus rebuild etc etc etc to be just as SLOW as he is now?? Wow...great advice! I bet if he posted a B series in there then getting a transmission and shafts etc wouldn't be a problem for you. GTF outta here with that bull.

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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:30 AM
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Really?

So you’re saying that he should just go all ***** out and f swap it huh. Even though he has all his d series axles, ecu, mounts and harness? Just buy all new for the f series right, while rebuilding it. Cause it’s ******* Christmas right
It's obvious you didn't read his post. So you just running your mouth instead of reading it. You saying he should pay 200 for the A6 or Y8..pay for everything to rebuild it and then still be as slow as he was before? Wow man..great advice. For that he can just rebuild his current motor and do a mini-me or whatever rather then spending the money buying another motor, spend more money and time and still be slow. Some great advice indeed!!
Like i said..to each his own. Don't know why you hating on F series when it clearly has much more potential than any D series...but again..to each his own.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by White_EG1
You know what fpower ain’t lyin it is the best... If you have a ******* accord lmaoooo

lol
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 11:47 AM
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I need to just stop with my turbo D16 setup and sell it all...so I can know about that F22/23 life.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NVturbo
I need to just stop with my turbo D16 setup and sell it all...so I can know about that F22/23 life.
Look man you stick with what you want and know, don't mean you have to downgrade or bash on someone that mentions anything but little D16's. You of all people should know that if you take that turbo setup away..its just another slow D16. But good luck to you and OP with whatever you do.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 05:36 PM
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So how fast is that F23 compared to a half an integra OP could be buying and bolt into his civic?
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 07:47 PM
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Why not just weld the 1/2's together and have 2 engines in the car, more hp.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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Why not just weld the 1/2's together and have 2 engines in the car, more hp.
$400 later and he's AWD twin engine zoomin.
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Old Jan 29, 2019 | 09:04 PM
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**** it just go B series. Ppl all day long selling full swaps on fb for good price. He'll u could probley talk them down alittle. Throw the d an f out just go B or hell even a H. Lol good luck on any choice u make though.
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Old Jan 30, 2019 | 11:58 AM
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$400 later and he's AWD twin engine zoomin.
I mean anybody can weld exhaust pipes together to make a roll cage.
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derps all around. op- the best choice there if rebuilding would be the d16y8 car. it is similar to the z6 engine you originally planned on, and the newest d motor that will go directly into your car. as others have said, a 94-01 acura integra engine and transmission are an easy option as well, as you can use all oem parts to swap the engine and trans into your civic.
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Old Jan 31, 2019 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by White_EG1
Really?

So you’re saying that he should just go all ***** out and f swap it huh. Even though he has all his d series axles, ecu, mounts and harness? Just buy all new for the f series right, while rebuilding it. Cause it’s ******* Christmas right
😂😂😂 Ahhh you beat me to it.
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Old Feb 1, 2019 | 07:44 AM
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Bickering, bickering, bickering.....

For ease, since you are not going for a super fast car (your words). I would do the D16Y8, not worry about rebuilding it (was running when it got t-boned, rear ended) and while you are there, grab the cam shaft of the D16A6. Then you could rebuild your D15B7 but throw the D16A6 camshaft into it and turn it into the Beast7 build with a tune on Crome.

From my understanding the D15Beast7 build provided quite a nice bump to the 1.5 liter. This will give you the extra oomph for the highway as well as keep the best fuel economy. And it's very gentle on the wallet.

Edit Addendum: Looking it up, with stock bottom end the D15Beast7 tuned gets about 120 WHP with a decent torque curve. If you rebuilt with high compression pistons, you could be close to 130ish WHP with a good tune. If you want solid torque you will need to switch to a DOHC setup aka B series.

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