Will a 96-01 B18B1 intake/ throttle body fit on a 1993 D16Z6 engine? and if not will a 96-01 B18B1 throttle body bolt up to a 1993 D16Z6 intake? would there be in gains by doing so? I do realize ill have to port match intake to throttle body

thanks, im all new to HONDA, been a V8 Edelbrock Holly hugger headers person for 20 years and now just realizing how fun and fast these cars are, lovin the Honda community, you guys are mostly here to share and help, so far I have not ran into any A--holes lol thanks again for your help and knowledge

 

not really.

 

not really what? kinda vague

 

Not really a lot of gains to be had, and I'm pretty sure you'd need to redrill/tap the throttle body for them to actually mate up to the intake manifold.

D series engines won't really get many gains naturally aspirated, and for the cost it takes to turbocharge them past 250WHP, you'd be much better off going in the direction of a B series swap.

If you wanted to post a more general topic as far as what your goals are with your car, or what you're after, you can get more input there. Check out some build threads here either on the appearance section, or by googling different builds (B18 all motor, B turbo build, etc) just to get an idea of what's possible and what goes on.

Anyway, the throttle body definitely wouldn't be worth the hassle. If you did want a new TB and to port match, you'd be better off finding an aftermarket throttle body. It'd probably end up costing less than modifying an OEM one.

 

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read this post and have to disagree with some of what was said, adding more air and fuel to your engine WILL increase power...... what is a turbo? its forced induction, adding/ forcing more air into the engine so you have to compensate by adding more fuel, so by adding more air and fuel to any stock engine will increase HP, one even made a funny claim that extra air wont do anything without increasing compression....... lol, no you dont have to increase compression to get more HP out of a stock engine but I bet when they made that statement they were under the belief one can only increase compression with piston swap....... when you can increase compression by having the head and or block shaved/decked and also by using a thinner head gasket, it has been proven a real "cold air" intake adds HP on a dyno, increasing air and fuel flow by port matching and smoothing out the runners will also increase flow but you also have to have whats coming in fast also going out fast, upgrading exhaust and port matching as well on the exhaust side

 

ok...but you didn't say you were adding a b-series tb for turbo purpose so there's that. GL.

 

yeah after I posted I found NEW aftermarket TB's for $20 more than stock used ones, I dont have the time or funds to do a B swap, apparently everybody makes allot more money in less time than me, in my area a B swap motor/ tranny is 2K and up, I only gave $1800 for the car

 

I also never said I was adding a turbo, just using that as a point, I'm not arguing with you guys as I am new and wanting to learn from the masters, the ones thats been at it and doing it. I do want to add a turbo in the future but would like to one day save up enough money to do a B swap but until that day, im stuck with a D16Z6, must not be to bad of a motor as I have seen youtube videos where people are building them with eagle rods and forged pistons etc.

 

one guy was making 500HP on a 1.6L SOHC that was in a hatchback civic

 

Than you using a turbo force induction as a valid argument point is nulled sir, please try again.

 

actually the point i did make with that is the more air and fuel you put into a engine will increase HP, whether it be forced induction or naturally aspirated (opening up airways and better fuel management) still will get positive results

 

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The D16Z6 and B18B throttle bodies are the same size... so I don't understand how you would make more power whether you are planning to stay N/A or pressurize the system. With a naturally aspirated engine, you cannot "put" more air into the engine... the pumping action of the engine PULLS air in... so unless your throttle body becomes a restriction somewhere within the power band, a larger throttle body will be ineffective, and in fact, likely reduce air velocity in the lower and midrange areas and LOSE power there.

 

all of the **** you're used to adding power with in the v8 world- throw it out the window. v8 engines as a rule are ridiculously inefficient. adding things like intakes, aftermarket headers, etc improve them a great deal over their stock trash parts. on a healthy sohc Civic engine, you would be lucky to grab 3hp off of the best air intake you could find. same with any exhaust/header setup. these engines really do not respond to bolt ons, unless you happen to be bolting on a turbo/supercharger.

 

are you retarded? yes the same power adders you use on a V8 also work with 4 cylinders............ ever seen a turbo on a v8 and 4 cylinder? also seen them on motorcycles and almost all diesel......... heads, bearings, valves, valve springs, rockers, pistons, **Eagle** rods, forged.......... yeah they are the same dumbshit, exhaust as well

 

i may have only 12 posts but someone please shed some light, cant all be as dumb as the last post

 

bolt ons in the sense of a throttle body or manifold do **** all for these engines. how do you keep reverting back to the turbo argument? what in the flying **** does a turbo have to do with an intake, throttle body, or exhaust? how is rebuilding an engine with aftermarket components a bolt on? you are easily the dumbest **** to join this forum in a verrryyyy long time. go buy your ebay throttle body, slap it on, and strap in for your enormous power gains.

 

well....since you seem like such a knowledgeable mechanic, why don't you just work on **** yourself instead of asking random strangers what fits or not? I doubt you even know how to do a simple oil change.

 

Still using force induction as a reason for a supposedly tb upgrade? That's CHILDISH at best.

 

This. In your first post you admitted you were knew to Honda engines and was asking for input/advice, and now you're just shitting all over what everyone is telling you.

Yes, bolt ons will always yield at least a little more power over OEM components when properly designed and especially when tuned. However, there is VERY LITTLE room for growth on D series engines with bolt ons to the point at which it's completely meaningless to modify them with bolt-ons only. Even fully built, NA D series are a complete waste of time.

In your original post you mentioned you hadn't run into many ********/idiots yet within the Honda community - Do us all a favor and don't add yourself as one of them.

 

Thread is closed.

OP, instead of asking why you decide to insult the community. And unfortunately you painfully displayed your lack of knowledge in this area and didn't ask to be enlightened why the differences in feedback from what you were expecting.

I will try and make this simple, even in the V8 world, if the engine is already maximized to it's full potential, no amount of bolt on modifications is going to improve on that engine and will likely decrease it's output.

Honda tends to maximize their engine efficiency and typical bolt on modifications, do little to improve on already maximized potential. That bigger intake or bigger exhaust or both may do the exact opposite and power drops due to destroying the scavenging capabilities of the exhaust and/or reducing the intake velocity which in turn reduces the amount of air the engine pulls in.

Turbo and Super Chargers are not your "typical" bolt on modifications. Those are a bit more of a rework of the whole system to varying degrees of indepthness.

If you wish to change your approach to learn instead of resorting to general insults when feedback differs from what you know and believe, please feel free to start a new thread. If you wish to disagree harshly with anyone or thing that doesn't align with your beliefs or thoughts, please refrain.

***NOTE TO COMMUNITY*** This post does not condone the harshness returned it merely acknowledges the OP brought out the worst in some of the community. I thank those that did not let it get the best of them and refrained from responding poorly regardless of what was being presented.