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Old May 23, 2018 | 07:24 PM
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we have a 1997 CR-V
the manual says re oil:
including filter 4.0 US gals
without filter 3.7 US Gals
TOTAL 4.9 US gals.

why is the total MORE than including filter?

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Old May 24, 2018 | 04:28 AM
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I couldn't tell you where that fuzzy math comes from...maybe Honda used to hire summer interns to write their owner's manuals. I can tell you that my 2001 CR-V consistently takes right about 4.5 qts for an oil and filter change.
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Old May 24, 2018 | 05:57 AM
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I couldn't tell you where that fuzzy math comes from...maybe Honda used to hire summer interns to write their owner's manuals. I can tell you that my 2001 CR-V consistently takes right about 4.5 qts for an oil and filter change.

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Old May 24, 2018 | 09:48 AM
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.9 quarts that you are questioning is the volume of oil that is not drainable (collected at the bottom of oil pan and valve train). After engine overhaul, you would need 4.9 quarts of oil. When you perform an oil change you would need 3.7 quarts if not replacing the oil filter, or 4.0 quarts if you are replacing the oil filter.
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Old May 24, 2018 | 10:51 AM
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Thanks for your help
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Old May 24, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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this is the dipstick from a 1997 Honda CRV
I was always taught that the best time to get an accurate reading was after the engine had cooled down.
dealership guy says when you have been using the engine. and it is still hot.
the photo looks like they have been putting too much oil in.
what do you think?
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Old May 31, 2018 | 09:24 AM
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Can anyone answer this question please?
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Old May 31, 2018 | 12:00 PM
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I check oil within seconds after I turn the engine off (whether its cold or hot). Have a little extra oil in the oil pan is not a problem. It would only become a problem if you exceed the upper level marking by ALOT. While I can't tell you exactly at what level it would become an issue, as each car may be different. I can tell you that the reason why it would be a problem is because the oil level would be high enough to interfere with crankshaft rotation. As a result, you could damage (bend) the crankshaft during its rotation. Similar to a hydraulic effect. To conclude, I don't see anything alarming in the level of oil you show on the dipstick. Good luck!
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Old May 31, 2018 | 12:49 PM
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Builtnotbought is right, the oil level looks a bit high but not problematic, and yes, if your oil level gets too high your crankshaft will begin to splash through it as it spins. This will not bend your crankshaft though. The crankshaft will encounter resistance as it spins through the oil and if you notice this effect at all, it'll show up as a decrease in power. Also, the oil will aerate as it is splashed around in the sump and aerated oil does not dissipate engine heat as well so between those two effects you could notice your engine running hotter than usual. Unless you actually overheat though, you won't do lasting damage...being the main point.

Since you're going to burn some oil between now and your next oil change, just drive it and check your oil level every 1000 miles or so. You'll reach "full" before too long, and then top off accordingly as you get towards the lower hole.
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Old May 31, 2018 | 02:45 PM
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we have never added oil in the 20 years we have owned the car.
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