so I a 98 sedan v6. I have no particular purpose for the car just want a clean looking ride. Well I want to lower it mainly to get rid of the horrible wheel gap. Not to tuck the tire but have the finder and quarter panels just over the tires. What SPRING would you guys recommend for that type of drop. Not looking to get coils so I do wanna dead that option lol. I also I'll need to be getting shocks and struts but just wanna start with springs as of now. Any help or recommendation is appreciated

 

Eibach pro kit springs would be a good choice.

BUT....I will say...Idk if you're put off by coilovers for the sake of cost or ride quality, times have changed and good options are available for less than the cost of springs/shocks...and you may be happier in the long run.

 

Not really put off...just don't want to spend too much money but I'll definetly look. If I see a reputable set for a good price it's a go

 

So I found a eibach spotline kit with a 2" drop front and rear. That should definitely get rid of the wheel gas. On the site there $290. I need to see picks of that

 

Look at Tein Street Advance on Thmotorsports.com. Or contact them thru the hondatech marketplace for possible discounts. They should be under $600

They also carry koni yellows and ground control coilover conversions.

I would not use 2" drop springs on any stock length shock...including Koni or Bilstein, unless you plan on using a really heavy spring rate.

I'd recommend Pro-kit springs.

Not sportline. Sportlines are not typically made for normal road use. They are for car shows or for a application that can accept a very compromised ride quality. To summarize...the ones I had on my EM1 rode like absolute garbage. They were so low and soft that the car just smashed the bumpstop on every bump.

I know Accords have good travel...but a 2" drop...on a street car....ehhh. Probably a bad idea unless you buy coilovers with shortened shocks and enough damping to accept pretty high spring rates.

$290 high for springs. I think thmotorsports and tire rack normally carry them around $200-225.

 

that was very well broken down. Appreciate it. I guess I have som thinking to do. Also thanks for plugging cheaper prices. So going with a 2" drop will probably tuck the tires (which I definetly don't want) and the 1.5" drop with get rid of the gap for sure

 

No problem. good luck with what you choose.

If you google for images of "98 accord with (insert brand/name here) lowering springs", you'll find ones you're looking for.

As far as my experience...I don't really advocate lowering springs anymore, but I was always really impressed with Eibach Pro-kit springs.

I have been using Tein SA coilovers on 2 different TSX's (accords) for years...and one set has 60+k miles and 3 or 4 midwest winters under its belt. No appreciable rust. They still work...though the 60k mile set is probably starting to wear out a bit. $600, made in Japan, best corrosion proofing I've seen, real deal streetable ride quality, etc.




Sedan:


After 3 or 4 Chicagoland winters:


Also installed a set for my friend on his TL-S (also an accord lol):

 

Hey B_Serious, I'm a complete noob to the modding scene. Like OP I was looking at the Eibach pro kit, but I have McDonald's quality struts so when you made the suggestion for Tein SA coil overs I thought it made more sense to invest in that rather than struts and springs. However I've heard a lot of negatives about coil overs but you're saying its much better now. I'm just worried about scrapping and tire rub and ride quality.. and based on what the TEIN SA's let me do, I think I would drop about ~1.7 inches. My question is, how is the ride quality as opposed to stock? And do you think I would scrape after dropping 1.7 inches? I also have a cg6 and its at stock height right now. My summer wheels are on 17/50/205 tires.

Also is it worth getting the Street Advance over the Street Basis? There is a decent price difference between them. Would be worth it to me, who just want's his ride to look good? lol

Thank you for patience and sorry for the huge post

 

Lowering springs make it more likely to scrape. They're soft...and you're stuck with whichever height they spec at. So...if you do scrape, you cannot raise the car easily.

SA's should accomodate a 1.7" drop on an accord with similar ride quality to stock. My TSX on SA's rides BETTER than stock.

Buy the SA. The adjustable damping is worth it because this is...after all...an entry level system. So I wouldn't entirely trust a "set" damper to ride like I would want it. But the damping adjustment on the SA works well...and the SA typically rides better than the SB depending on what damper setting you use. The price diff shouldn't be that much. Under $100, usually.

 

Thank you really appreciate the advice! Just have one last question(s). I noticed that you mentioned the koni yellows with the ground control coilvers, and on this forums main page it has that tier list with the best suspension setups with that one basically being the best. (Not to mention the koni yellows have life time warranty). Is it worth investing in that setup (as opposed to the Teins) if I could afford it? I don't plan on doing any racing or anything, but that lifetime warranty sounds like its really worth price, and they seem to be adjustable like the Teins.

 

Well...Koni certainly makes a better shock. Better damping curve, lasts longer between rebuilds, better support, and easier customization.

HOWEVER...for very simple street driving setups...you're not going to really use the damping customization (though, SA's are custom valveable too), and if you let them get so bad that they actually start to malfunction, you'll be in for some punishment before they actually fail. I am not sure Koni provides free lifetime rebuilds from normal wear.

Downsides:

Konis are standard length shocks. So...I'm not sure they'll properly accept a 1.7" drop, as that's a pretty big deviation if you think about it.

They're only damping adjustable in rebound. Meaning that, as you stiffen/soften the shock, it doesn't get any harder/easier to push down. It only gets harder/easier to expand.

This is a good and bad thing, depending on the case. Koni does a grea job at ride engineering. But...sometimes, bump damping adjustment is good in a system with set spring rates. Konis aren't meant for just one spring rate. So having ONLY rebound adjustment makes sense. But...again, you want a setup for the street. So a well engineered system of matched springs/shocks like the SA is sometimes better/more simple.

With Konis, you need to select springs on your own. The shock is engineered to take a lot of different rates. But...you gotta know what you're doing. Proven, off the shelf rates from ground control do exist, however. And those are well matched.

Corrosion resistance....is...effing terrible on Koni shocks. Just effing awful. If you don't drive on salted roads...then this doesn't really matter.

But Tein's corrosion proofing is the best I've seen.

I do like Koni/GC. The shock is miraculous and is under priced for all that it gives back.

But...the Teins offer simplicity, good life span (+60K and going for me), a shortened shock body, pre-engineered spring/damper system, pre-engineered bumpstop lengths and rates, and very good overall ride quality (not as good as a PROPERLY setup Koni. But still very good). And the SA has damper settings that I feel, work well.

SA's seem to have been very well calibrated for Accords in particular. TSX/TL/Accord people almost unanimously have positive feedback.

 

Well I think you pretty much made up my mind.. The roads here are heavily salted when it snows, and occasionally we get hit hard with these snow storms, so for the corrosion proofing alone I'm gonna go with the TEINs lol. Although KONI GC sounds like a great combo anyway, It seems that the TEINs suit my needs better and are better suited for where I live.

Thank you again, and really appreciate the advice, I learned a lot from just this thread alone!

 

No problem. Post a review when you're done. If you're anything like 90% of people...you'll end up setting the shock quite a bit stiffer than Tein recommends lol.