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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 01:29 PM
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What's up everyone? I'm having a problem trying to figure out my situation. First off, my car kinda was stuck in a flood back in November. Lol. Water was pretty much up to the oil pan. After that, my steering started to get funky and sloppy. I started replacing parts by parts for my front end. New inner and outer tie rod, rack end bushing, hard race LCA bushings, moog lower ball joints, new kyb shocks on omni sleeves (not lowered anymore, fit 3-4 fingers between fender and tire), replaced both axles. Got an alignment but still clunking and sloppy. I asked the technician and they said everything was align, not sure why it's still the way it is. I am getting new tires sometimes this month also. Anyone ever had this problem? What else can it be, it's driving me nuts. Especially when it rain!
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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new motor mounts lately? fixed mine on the cheap with window weld:

2 Dow U 428 Plus Windshield Urethane Primerless Adhesive Glue Sealant Window | eBay

nice and firm now but not crazy hard vibing.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tamboo
new motor mounts lately? fixed mine on the cheap with window weld:

2 Dow U 428 Plus Windshield Urethane Primerless Adhesive Glue Sealant Window eBay

nice and firm now but not crazy hard vibing.
I reseal my mounts 2 years ago with roof urethane I believe. Forgot what it was but it was some kind of polyurethane from home Depot. Seems like it's vibrating from my driver side only.
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 06:59 PM
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Did you adjust the pinion when you say you replaced the rack end bushing?

Just confirming you also replaced the correct rack end bushing, what color was it?
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 07:42 AM
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Did you adjust the pinion when you say you replaced the rack end bushing?

Just confirming you also replaced the correct rack end bushing, what color was it?
What do you mean by adjusting? I didn't drop the pinion at all. I just worked through the passenger side.

This is what was replaced on the pinion.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 09:52 AM
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You got the rack end bushing correct.

You still need to adjust the pinion. It's at the bottom of the rack. You need a large wrench, a plumber's wrench or channel locks work.

Theres instructions in the manual. Or Google it. Don't over tighten, expect to do it more than once to get it just right.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 06:12 PM
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You got the rack end bushing correct.

You still need to adjust the pinion. It's at the bottom of the rack. You need a large wrench, a plumber's wrench or channel locks work.

Theres instructions in the manual. Or Google it. Don't over tighten, expect to do it more than once to get it just right.
I've followed the steps in the manual. The clunk is still there. Is there anything else that might cause it? My steering does feel a little bit better. Maybe I'll give it another shot tomorrow.
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 09:07 PM
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seems like you might be on the right path for sorting out the steering slop.
'clunk' could mean a lot of different things though.
When do you hear the clunk happen - when parked, driving, braking, turning, over bumps, etc?
can you make the clunk happen or is it just sort of random?
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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 04:55 AM
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seems like you might be on the right path for sorting out the steering slop.
'clunk' could mean a lot of different things though.
When do you hear the clunk happen - when parked, driving, braking, turning, over bumps, etc?
can you make the clunk happen or is it just sort of random?
I can only hear while driving. Once the car starts moving you can feel it on the pedal. Then as it progress, you can start hearing it. Like its right under my feet.

I'm having mixed feelings that it might be bad rack and pinion. I had a bmw 740 a few years back and it started acting up. I also replaced the whole front end suspension and it ended up to the a bad rack and pinion. Is there a way to diagnose it? Or what are my percentage of having a bad rack and pinion?

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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 04:06 PM
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Crossmember bushings or upper control arms?
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 04:08 PM
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I rechecked my motor mounts and the rear is shaking. I'm going to reseal it and possibly get new tires this weekend. Plus another alignment. Hopefully it'll solve my problem.
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 08:32 AM
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Crossmember bushings or upper control arms?
I have yet to replace my crossmember bushings. Will try that also. And my upper control arms are a year old skunk2. Can it possibly go bad already?

this clunking noise is driving me nuts. New rear mount and noise is still there. It's only coming from driver side. Put my car on Jacks and pretty much disassembled everything to double check if anything were shot or loose. And all checks out fine. Any other possibilities. I'm probably getting some new crossmember bushings today and see if that'll help.
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 08:38 AM
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junk2?
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 09:08 AM
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junk2?
JUNK2? Oh no, are they not good? Yes skunk 2 upper control arms and rear. What other brand is good? I'm like in a position right now where I'm almost willing to pay for a better brand. I was thinking about just going back to stock since I raised my car anyways.
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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are you inspecting for clunks by shaking the suspension? you should be able to find sources clunks that way. could be ball joints.

otherwise its all just guesses over the internet diagnosing noises.
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyson
are you inspecting for clunks by shaking the suspension? you should be able to find sources clunks that way. could be ball joints.

otherwise its all just guesses over the internet diagnosing noises.
I'm inspecting each part separately and yes, just by tugging on it as hard as I can from the spaces I have. Ball joints and tie rods have no plays at all. I'll check again
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When I got my crx, the steering gearbox bolts were all loose, as well as a couple rear-subframe bolts. After tightening them up, there was still a clunk. Didn't finally resolve it until I removed the front subframe, cleaned it's mating surface with the chassis, and replaced the radius rod bushings. I had an off throttle and braking clunk that must have either been the subframe shifting or a bad radius rod bushing.
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Originally Posted by 94eg!
When I got my crx, the steering gearbox bolts were all loose, as well as a couple rear-subframe bolts. After tightening them up, there was still a clunk. Didn't finally resolve it until I removed the front subframe, cleaned it's mating surface with the chassis, and replaced the radius rod bushings. I had an off throttle and braking clunk that must have either been the subframe shifting or a bad radius rod bushing.
Bad radius rod bushings will give an on/off throttle clunk. Pretty common on old cars OP if you haven't checked that yet.
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Old Mar 7, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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Finally figured out my problem. I was starting to lean towards my wheel bearings going bad but my wheels would not move no matter how hard i tried shaking it while it was on jack stands. I even had 3 other people shook it for me, no play or movement. So I just decided to replace it since I've replaced so many parts already. And that clunking stopped. An easy fixed turned to whole front end suspension replace lol. Oh well
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Old Mar 8, 2017 | 08:34 AM
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do you still have the old bearing?

did you ever rotate the wheel or can you feel if the bearing is rough when you turn it? it wont be exactly like how it was when it was installed so it may not be the best test.

but it just goes to show you dont test wheel bearings by shaking the wheel. thats not the right test for bearings.
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