Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 07:34 AM
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Default Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

So I have a set of bc stage 2 n/a cams for my b18b but I've decided to change the direction of my build from n/a to turbo , now the stage 2 n/a and f/I cams have the same ti retainer/valve spring kit , can I still use the n/a cams with a turbo setup (goals around to safety run around 15psi , hoping for around 300hp)

Build specs so far ,
stage 2 n/a cams
3angle valve job
crower ti retainer and valve spring kit


Specs of n/a cam:http://www.briancrower.com/makes/honda/cam_card/bc_0022.pdf
specs of f/I cam: http://www.briancrower.com/makes/honda/cam_card/bc_0021.pdf
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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Default re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

I used those cams in my old ls swapped hatch. Had good results with them. Made good power and had good drivability and idled like stock.
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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Yes, you sure can. They work well with a turbocharger.
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 11:44 AM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Here's a video of my hatch with those cams at the track on street tires. That thing definitely moved with those cams.

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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 04:00 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by boosted94gsr
Here's a video of my hatch with those cams at the track on street tires. That thing definitely moved with those cams.

https://youtu.be/vEsJ6bhFOfk
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I used those cams in my old ls swapped hatch. Had good results with them. Made good power and had good drivability and idled like stock.


thanks man , I read up on your build on the video description, I was thinking about doing a pretty simular build

b18b1
arp headstuds (already have)
stage 2 bc n/a cams (already have)
bc valve spring and ti retainer kit
​​​​​​​3 angle valve job done on head
edelbrock victor x intake (but I found a cheap blox intake on kijiji as well , any suggestions on that) (I'm more leaning towards the victor x)
b16a Nippon pistons(already ordered in the mail)
ls rods
arp rod bolts (already have)
And I'll be honestly I haven't really researched turbo's too much so I haven't bought anything yet, any suggestions would be appreiceited , looking for atleast 325whp but the more the better , thanks boosted94!

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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 04:10 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Also found a set of cheap Manley turbo tuff rods for cheap too, think I might get those soon
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 05:19 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by Ricerjack
thanks man , I read up on your build on the video description, I was thinking about doing a pretty simular build

b18b1
arp headstuds (already have)
stage 2 bc n/a cams (already have)
bc valve spring and ti retainer kit
3 angle valve job done on head
edelbrock victor x intake (but I found a cheap blox intake on kijiji as well , any suggestions on that) (I'm more leaning towards the victor x)
b16a Nippon pistons(already ordered in the mail)
ls rods
arp rod bolts (already have)
And I'll be honestly I haven't really researched turbo's too much so I haven't bought anything yet, any suggestions would be appreiceited , looking for atleast 325whp but the more the better , thanks boosted94!
Here is a link to my build thread. It pretty much covers everything I did start to finish. I think the victor x im is a little overkill for your power goal. Let me know if you have any specific questions. I'm always happy to help man.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/appear...build-3208172/
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 11:23 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

I literally thought about making the exact same post, but just read old messages from people saying it would be fine, the issue is overlap, but I was told I shouldn't have to adjust anything.

Also b18b1 setup with BC stage 2 n/a cams.
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Old Oct 21, 2016 | 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by boosted94gsr
Here's a video of my hatch with those cams at the track on street tires. That thing definitely moved with those cams.

https://youtu.be/vEsJ6bhFOfk
sick setup, especially with BBG. How much power did it make at 22 psi? ~360whp?

I'm going for ~430whp. I have neptune RTP. I Want to set up BBG but I am clueless atm. I did buy a MAC solenoid, I'm not sure what else I'm missing.
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Old Oct 22, 2016 | 01:50 AM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

yes you can use those na cams on a boost motor. My friend did it with my old cams and i tuned it for him. thing made some power over 5000 rpm for what it was.


Originally Posted by Ricerjack
thanks man , I read up on your build on the video description, I was thinking about doing a pretty simular build

b18b1
arp headstuds (already have)
stage 2 bc n/a cams (already have)
bc valve spring and ti retainer kit
3 angle valve job done on head
edelbrock victor x intake (but I found a cheap blox intake on kijiji as well , any suggestions on that) (I'm more leaning towards the victor x)
b16a Nippon pistons(already ordered in the mail)
ls rods
arp rod bolts (already have)
And I'll be honestly I haven't really researched turbo's too much so I haven't bought anything yet, any suggestions would be appreiceited , looking for atleast 325whp but the more the better , thanks boosted94!
ok, do not use the victor x on that motor. sounds weird but the intake manifold you need is a p30. the blox can work too i would use a stock or 60 mm tb keep your velocities up.

b16 pistons in an ls motor give you probably more compression than you want. maybe use the nippon b series "vitara" turbo pistons which i think are the same compression as oem ls pistons. dont get too big of a turbo or too carried away. ls motors just dont have the workable rpm range to throw sizeable turbos on and have any kind of enjoyable powerband.
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Old Oct 22, 2016 | 06:31 AM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by TravisBiggie
sick setup, especially with BBG. How much power did it make at 22 psi? ~360whp?

I'm going for ~430whp. I have neptune RTP. I Want to set up BBG but I am clueless atm. I did buy a MAC solenoid, I'm not sure what else I'm missing.
Thanks! Based on my trap speed and weight it made about 385whp. I street tuned it on Neptune rtp so it was never on an actual dyno. I sold it a while back, kinda miss it tho lol.

I can help you setup bbg. PM if you want me to help you out.
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 03:58 AM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by blackeg
yes you can use those na cams on a boost motor. My friend did it with my old cams and i tuned it for him. thing made some power over 5000 rpm for what it was.




ok, do not use the victor x on that motor. sounds weird but the intake manifold you need is a p30. the blox can work too i would use a stock or 60 mm tb keep your velocities up.

b16 pistons in an ls motor give you probably more compression than you want. maybe use the nippon b series "vitara" turbo pistons which i think are the same compression as oem ls pistons. dont get too big of a turbo or too carried away. ls motors just dont have the workable rpm range to throw sizeable turbos on and have any kind of enjoyable powerband.
got the blox manifold (I found a cheap one near me) and why would I not want the 10:1 ratio of the b16 pistons rather than the stock 9:1? I don't mean to sound like an *** but I don't understand why people think turboing a low compression engine is that much safer than a high compression build , if it's tunedA right it should be just as reliable and put out better numbers no?

​​​​​​​http://www.team-integra.net/forum/16-forced-induction/2076-all-you-low-compression-******-read.html#/topics/2076?_k=5dms2c

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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by Ricerjack
got the blox manifold (I found a cheap one near me) and why would I not want the 10:1 ratio of the b16 pistons rather than the stock 9:1? I don't mean to sound like an *** but I don't understand why people think tuning a low compression engine is that much safer than a high compression build , if it's tuned right it should be just as reliable and put out better numbers no?

http://www.team-integra.net/forum/16-forced-induction/2076-all-you-low-compression-******-read.html#/topics/2076?_k=5dms2c
​​​​​​​Not many (informed) people will argue with this here.
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 08:55 AM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by boosted94gsr
Here's a video of my hatch with those cams at the track on street tires. That thing definitely moved with those cams.

https://youtu.be/vEsJ6bhFOfk

anyone have any experience with the gtx425 kit? figure this would be a good kit for my setup with the possibility of growth , http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gostxbabetuk.html
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Old Oct 25, 2016 | 02:21 PM
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Default Re: Is it possible to use Brian Crower Stage 2 NA cams in a turbo B18B?

Originally Posted by Ricerjack
anyone have any experience with the gtx425 kit? figure this would be a good kit for my setup with the possibility of growth , http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gostxbabetuk.html
GTX2867R

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