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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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i'm gettin alot of right front lock up. is this because i need to bleed my brakes (i know i do anyway) or is this a bad caliper??? figures, right before my hpde, things go down the toilet.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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Default Re: brake trouble (SOLOef)

same problem on my car, before and after new pads, rotors, remanned calipers, slider pins, and lots of bleeding.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 07:47 PM
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gonna bleed them and pray that does it. i'll let ya know if it worx when i get back from limerock.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 08:32 PM
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when u going up there....and coming back?
I'd love to go watch
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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Default Re: brake trouble (SOLOef)

My car will ALWAYS lock the left front a little before the right front. No matter how many new parts are in there, how fresh the bleed is or how different the alignment or shock settings are, I've come to the realization that THAT'S just how it's going to be. FWIW, you may want to look into all of those areas to see if anythings deficient. Any of those can cause your braking issues.

Oh yeah...forgot about tire pressures, too.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:08 PM
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Default Re: brake trouble (SOLOef)

Carroll smith advises that most brake lockup issues are suspension related. take that for what its worth. (btw, he's worth a lot in racing)
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 06:28 AM
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MAster cylinder? ABS flaking out? Or what Tyson said.

Friend on mine with an SE-R had serious problems with premature lockup on his car. Traced it to ABS system.

Matt-doesn't like ABS all that much....

P.S. Try a flush and lube the pins. See what that does for you. Worth a shot and that's a cheap/easy first step to take before you start spending real money on remanned calipers/master cylinders...


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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:05 AM
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yea, i think lubin the pins amy help as well. what should i lube them with? anything special?
suspension is stock, till next week. so i can't do anything about that. although my car seems to lean to the left which would make the right side lighter. hhmmmm. i'm gonna bleed the anyway because i don't know the condition of the fluid and a full season of autocross hasn't improved the fluid any.
i will also check the pressures but i believe there within 2 lbs of eachother.
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edit-i don't have abs


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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:35 AM
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Another cheap thing to try before investing in new parts would be to get some brake spray and give all your friction surfaces a good cleaning. A greasy handprint on a rotor can really have an effect.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:37 AM
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I picked up some caliper pin lube at the auto parts store (Autozone, IIRC). Sitting right next to the counter. Cheap and lasted me ~ 1 year.

Along the suspension theory, could one of your shocks be blown???
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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dam i should have addressed this earlier
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 08:32 AM
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yea, i think lubin the pins amy help as well. what should i lube them with? anything special?
I used high-temp valvoline synthetic grease. It's probably overkill, but you can use the stuff for tons of other things on your car and it'll stand up to high temperatures. I just took the pins completely out, cleaned with a clean rag, dipped them in the grease, cleaned off the excess and put them back in the calipers. Make sure the pin boots seal completely and ripples in the boot aren't twisted.


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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 11:25 AM
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Default Re: brake trouble (SOLOef)

yea, i think lubin the pins amy help as well. what should i lube them with? anything special?
a silicone lube. very similiar to lube for polyurethane bushings.


MaddMatt posted "I picked up some caliper pin lube at the auto parts store (Autozone, IIRC). "

This is probably the silicone lube Im talking about.


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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 06:06 PM
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so i just got in from lrp. good event. the brakes felt good with the hp+. no lock up problems. i'm still gonna grease the sliding pins on the calipers one of these days and re'bleed the system. thanks to carbotech for the help as well as everyone else ont he board for there input.
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